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If academics and open-ness matter at all, and we were to have a true ordering, KD and probably KKG have to move down. It would be refreshing to have a true rank and open discussion. KD and Kappa may have more "tradition" and some strong social ties to good frats but on the whole they should not be a level above houses like Pi Phi or ADPi. Weighing the different attributes they really are same level (just different socially and traditionally) than ADPi and Pi Phi. Kappa and KD have to pay a price for not being inclusive, having internal cliques, and weak academics given what they have to work with. At some point the excellent OOS has to factor in to collapse the old/new presumed pecking order.
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