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@nah and are they tho? your comments show how little you know about pike. as a groupie i will tell you that they have one of the strongest brotherhoods a gw. And who said the older guys that graduated stopped caring? i don't find that true, and i agree their freshmen consist of a few disappointments but that doesn't make the up the majority of those pledge classes. And out of all the fraternities at gw, i think you can agree that pike is the one that really doesn't need to compromise quality for numbers, they have alot of people as it it.