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Despite how SAE actually is, it is viewed as Upper Middle because of its notoriety/connections and will stay there. Pike is bottom right now, MAYBE lower-middle. Taking in half of persia and not being relevant whatsoever does not make a house upper middle. Are pike's egos really so big that they think they're well ranked, despite how they've been doing since they've lost their house? Pike's are living off an old reputation from many years ago and BS trolls on this website. It's all hype right now.