Initiation ceremony
by: SadTheoretically: Some girls at State were initiated a couple of weeks ago. They didn’t know what it was going to be until they were in the middle of it and it was too late to walk out. So they went through with it. Immediately feeling very unsettled about the whole thing. Now afterwards they are very upset and they felt it was mocking to the rite of baptism and being made to simulate death and being reborn. So it’s a legit concern with religious values. Question these girls now have… can they rescend their membership and go back and pledge something else since this ritual ceremony was sacreligious to them? Asking someone in the chapter isn’t an option because of the sensitive nature of the issue. Don’t know where else to turn. Please help.
#1 by: Happy
They can drop out but they can never join another NPC sorority after being initiated. But if they participated in being 'reborn' into "XYZ" then congratulations, they are now part of a sisterhood whose values and goals for its members are found in and based on the Bible. All NPC sororities have roots in the Bible and in studies of the classics. And every chapter of "XYZ" national sorority does the exact same ritual that has been in existence for over a hundred years.
I suggest that these girls ask the person in charge of the ritual, which is always a designated officer in every sorority (that's how important it is), to let them read the ritual again for themselves. It's their right to do so now as initiated members. They would not be the first to worry about conflict with religious beliefs. They can take a closer look to see if there really is anything that goes against what they believe so they can see things more clearly. What are XYZ's beliefs/principles/motto/expectations in those words? They may find that it is all actually based on, and a reflection of, their very same beliefs.
A sorority initiation ritual is NOT a worship service. Sororities are NOT religions; they are not meant to mock anyone's beliefs in any way or be a substitute for actual religion. Every sorority has its own rituals for pledging, initiation, formal meetings, and graduations. There is a little bit of drama in these ceremonies for effect, which these girls apparently experienced for themselves, but the real meaning is in the WORDS.
Lots of other organizations have rituals too, like Scouts, Masons, sports teams, and even our government. When we all sing the Star Spangled Banner together before a competition we are engaging in a ritual. Our various rituals of everyday life are something we can always count on; they encourage a certain level of consistency and active participation, and sometimes require personal reflection and growth based on a set of moral principles.
Rituals help establish a sense of belonging to a common membership with certain values that gives meaning within a community. That's what sororities are doing in their rituals.
#2 by: Sad
To "Stop Pretending:"
I chose not to give specifics as not to disclose my chapter. I wish you would not have done that. But for your own reasons, you did. I understand that you are angry for reasons only you know. But your anger against me is misplaced.
You were not in my initiation. So you have no idea what was said or done by my big and others. Greek women are supposed to be inclusive and loving. I wish you'd have stuck to that instead of turning mean girl and pointing fingers at me. You have NO clue what I've been through. NONE.
#4 by: oh please
Just drop already, except I agree that this whole issue is made up by a GDI from cherry picking gossip and coming on here to create drama. Do something productive with your imagination, no one cares. And most people actually think their initiations are a bit laughable and over the top no matter what the sorority.
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by: SadOct 13, 2024 5:06:43 PM
TY for the honest response.
These girls have asked some of their friends in other groups if they participated in anything akin to any type religious rites during their initiations and learned that other groups did not do this. Other groups hold uniform ceremonies for everyone at the same time that brings them all together at once. Nothing secret for individual persons. These theoretical girls were also VERY disappointed to learn that the order they got initiated in meant something unspoken & they aren’t as loved as they’ve been told. It’s all just a lot to take in and realize.
Just sad that some girls have felt compelled to participate in something uncomfortable & that according to you, many through the decades have apparently felt uneasy about it too - and thus rationalized it by saying other groups do it and it’s about “belonging.” That’s actually the exact excuse used for hazing. Do it and you’re one of us. But it’s still hazing - so saying it promotes “belonging” doesn’t make hazing right. So even if other groups did similar initiation rituals (which they don’t) doesn’t make this initiation right either.
Bottom line is that whether other groups do or not really isn’t the issue. Invoking religious symbolism for a social organization isn’t it. Ever.
Relying on scripture or a creed is one thing. Purposely mimicking the actions of a risen Savior and rites He established for His followers are something entirely different. And they are in no way akin to singing the National Anthem. That comparison is horrid. And purposely invoking drama “for effect” or to mirror the classics and supposed founding on the Bible is absolute mockery. Are you even serious rn? If so many people have questioned it over the years that we had to make up talking points to combat it?! Wow. It’s worse than we thought. Super conflicted rn. Something should be done.