Honest advice for OOR girls

This is exactly why the only difference between Chi O , KD , DG , Phi Mu ( considered top tier ) and DDD ,ADPi and ZTA ( considered middle tier ) is where you are from. I’m in a (considered middle tier house ) and love that I am making new lifetime friends and I am not in 13th grade again. DDD , ADPi and ZTA have gained from having top pmn’s from other states join them.

I agree however... If you are a PNM there are houses that take oor girls and are definitely great sororities as well. tbh not many people care about the tier system at state after recruitment is over and all sororities can be good fits you just have to trust that you will end in the right place

How does a pnm "maximize" her chances? What does this even mean? The sororities do the choosing. Pnm's don't drop houses because pnm's ranks are just ranks, and are only relevant if she would happen to get more invitations than allowed for a round. A pnm's chances are automatically "maximized" for her, so what is the actual specific advise here?

I guess OP meant don't drop out if you don't like your choices and don't SIP if you make it to pref.

I guess OP meant don't drop out if you don't like your choices and don't SIP if you make it to pref.

If you are a far out of state pnm or an out of state pnm with no in house connections, this is how to interpret the interest of a house by the number of actives following you.

0 Just like the number, you have zero chance if it is a top house.

1-3 They got your rec, noticed you on social media, or a mutual friend mentioned you and they are curtesy following you. This is a standard looksie into you. If a top house, then no real interest.

6-10 After a little research into you, the recruitment team liked what they saw and pushed your info to other girls in the house. You are considered on their radar and an active may have reached out to you.

10-15 Definite interest. Some actives will be liking your posts and one or more reached out to you. Some houses (not many) follow the rule of not reaching out or commenting on posts if they don’t already know you personally.

20+ You are a highly sought-after pnm for this house. Don’t screw it up during recruitment.

Clearly, this is not scientific but pretty much how PNMs should interpret new follows by actives in a particular house. It’s definitely true for the top 4 houses and many of the middle houses.

DO NOT DO THIS: Whoever commented that "If a girl knows her chances are slim to none of being offered a bid at a "top" house then she should seriously think about putting them below the line on day one" clearly doesn't understand the process. What they have described is nothing more than a pnm ranking herself through someone else's eyes. How stressful and complicated! No pnm should attempt to self-eliminate from any house's consideration; it will not get you invited back anywhere else. You can't go through your rush week making the sororities' decisions for them, you can only decide for yourself so don't base them on hearsay. And the sororities have no idea how any pnm ranks them, so that is not a consideration for them ever.

The algorithm will "maximize" your chances for you. The first thing that happens when houses drop a pnm is that they are removed from her list completely. It doesn't matter if she ranked them low or high, they are now gone. Then the algorithm considers all of the houses who do invite her back, whether they are 'below the line’ on her list or not, and gives her as many houses back as possible based on the allowed amount per round.

So, the algorithm will not drop houses from your schedule just because you rank them below the line, and you will get these houses back automatically if needed to fill your schedule. Your rankings actually only come into play if more houses want to ask you back than are allowed for that round. In that case, the algorithm drops your 'below the line' houses for you. But this very rarely happens; most pnm's get cuts at all rounds, and you can't second guess them so rank how you feel about the houses and if you would want to belong.

Looks like some of the "top tier" houses are nervous!!!!
Don't listen to them. They are worried about their return rate. It's total bragging rights to say 98% of the pnms put xyz sorority above the line.
PNMs, you need to look out for yourselves and not play into the lies of "top tier" house comments. If you don't have a ton of actives from a top house following you I can absolutely promise 99% of you will not receive a bid from them. NO CAP
You have the most control on day 1 rankings and pref day rankings!!!! You do what is best for YOU, not what top want you to do to make themselves look good.

"clearly doesn't understand the process. What they have described is nothing more than a pnm ranking herself through someone else's eyes"
-I absolutely do understand the process. You are lying to pnms. The house 100% looks out for them self and so should the pnms. The houses rank through their eyes, and pnms do to. But I think they should do it with their eyes open to their reality.

"No pnm should attempt to self-eliminate from any house's consideration; it will not get you invited back anywhere else."
-That is exactly why pnms are able to rank and hope that all of those above the line invite them back. Why else would the order of the houses below the line matter. Every time they put a house below the line they are "self-eliminating"


"You can't go through your rush week making the sororities' decisions for them"
-Ummm, why else does a pnm have the ability to rank houses in order below the line. So they can have some input into who they see back. But you want the house to have ALL the power and keep oor pnms blind to the fact that 99% will be never receive a bid by a top 3 house. As of today, the top 3 houses already know who 85% of their targeted pnms are.


"And the sororities have no idea how any pnm ranks them, so that is not a consideration for them ever."
-LIE! The pres and recruitment chair are given return rate numbers every morning. Total bragging rights when a house sees 95% return rate and they were able to cut a ton more girls than other houses.

"Your rankings actually only come into play if more houses want to ask you back than are allowed for that round."
-Exactly! And pnms have the most power day one and after they attend preference. Unknown out of region girls should be giving the "lower tiered houses" a chance by putting them above the line on day one.

It's funny how alumnae and actives preach "keep an open mind" but really you want them to do it on your terms. They need to keep an open mind because we all know that they will be dropped from top houses and must "keep an open mind" to accept a bid from a lower house, so please practice what you preach.
I am saying that they should keep an open mind to the lower houses by not putting them below the line on day one. How in the world do you have a problem with that????

It is a numbers game. The PNM’s strategy should be to maximize her options. In this case, this means to get the maximum number of invitations every round, which should enable her to make a more informed decision after prefs. If she is realistic with herself, and understands that , for whatever reason, her chances with a most desired sorority are slim, it might prove to her advantage to place them below the line. This becomes even more important as rush week marches on and the number of parties decrease, because if she is ranking as #1 those chapters where she actually stands a better chance of receiving a bid, she is more likely to have a full party list. Too many times girls shoot themselves in the foot by listing the popular houses as #1 and ranking houses where they would actually fit in, so those houses fall off her list. Eventually those top houses are going to drop them, and they’ll be left with few or no invitations.