post-recruitment rankings

you're obviously a phi mu. their new pledge looks good, but Φm is clearly below chi o and kd. maybe in a few years...

This is accurate for this recruitment. A lot of people are not ready to admit it but Phi Mu has really improved over the past two years. I was a doubter until seeing the results of this recruitment. They might not have passed DG or KD overall but did during recruitment. The two groups that impressed girls the most during recruitment were Chi O and Phi Mu.

100% correct.

For sure those two. They cross rushed quite a bit on pref night. Please go check in the Panhellenic office. It's proven on paper. However, all 4 groups are still strong!!

Chi O
KD
DG
Phi Mu
DDD
Pi Phi
Zeta
ADPi

how in the world do you have access to percentages of returns?? Answer: YOU DON'T!! Quit telling lies. You're sad.

No lies ... ask a Panhellenic Executive officer if you want to know the facts!! I did!!

Think whatever you want and correct however you feel necessary. I know what I know ... sorry the information bothers you so much.

What bothers me is the lies & misinformation.

I've been around recruitment for decades and I can PROMISE you that not even the head Gamma Chi or the PanHellenic officers have the info you're claiming to have obtained. So, it's obvious that what you THINK you know is based soley on someone's opinion and not any actual RFM figures. (If you even know what RFM stands for...)

If you've got the goods, then let's hear it. Where'd it come from - SPECIFICALLY. If you really do know so much then there should be NO problem whatsoever identifying the source. If you cannot back up your claims with actual verifiable info, then just stop spewing the crap.

You've been around recruitment for decades?? So you are an advisor who actually comments on this site? Really? Do you honestly think I am going to give names on here? You can say anything you want ...there were sororities who took VERY few cuts and had VERY high returns. It obviously bothers you that the comments were made about Phi Mu and Chi O. And by the way, RFM - recruitment figures methodology.

decades could mean that the person in question works on campus, or it could mean he/she is an advisor for a chapter on this (or another) campus, or it could just mean that it's a collegiate student who has a parent heavily involved in Greek Life at State. Really doesn't matter...but any way you slice it, the burden of proof to authenticate the claims about return/release percentages is on the person who originally posted that she had access to them. Her refusal to name her source proves that it's just a bunch of junk. She's trying to stir the pot and start something. Don't give her the self-important satisfaction she's aiming for. Ignore her & her bogus claims. She's cray.

I'm "cray" because I won't post a name on here? I think I am very sane for refusing to post a name on this site. I have no issues and am not trying to "stir things up". Maybe the others should let it go.

You have NO IDEA who I am. NONE!! Sorry to disappoint you but I am not a Phi Mu. Interesting that someone else posted the same thing on this thread and no one has gone "cray" on her. I'm finished with my responses to you. No need to prove anything to you. I stand by my original post. Period.

Our advisor didn't give us the exact percentages, but she made it very clear that chi o and phi mu did have the best returns and most girls put them first this year. So I can vouch for those rankings.

"I can vouch...?" And exactly who are YOU? Nobody but a liar.

And who is the advisor of whom you speak? Are you claiming that the Greek Life advisor gave this info to Gamma Chis? CPC Exec? Yeah right. You're gonna have to be more specific if you want anyone to believe this junk. Because right now, you just look like a Chi O with insecurity issues who wants everyone to bow down at your skull & crossbones. I've got news for you sweet stuff... Ain't happenin'

A little frustrated there aren't you? Full of hate? You're tough talk and negativity is getting old and very redundant. You are posting hate all over this website as though you think people actually believe your rantings. Grow up, get away from your keyboard and try to find positives in your group instead of tearing down everyone else. Other Greeks are signing up for SA committees and looking for ways to be involved on campus and make a positive difference at State.

Not frustrated....at this point more amused that you CLAIM to have a secret hotline to all sorts of empirical data that (even if it does exist somewhere out there), is not available for consumption by students. So, your insistence that it's real is really becoming comical when you won't state your source. That's because you're a liar and everyone knows it. (Both online and in real life.)

Oh - and I thought you were not posting anymore about this (August 23rd)...? Can't get everyone to jump on your CRAY bandwagon, so you're desperate, huh? Sounds about right. Those who can, DO. Those who can't try to make themselves feel better by trying to sound important. End of story.

Agree with this completely.

What. No.

Phi Mu. You aren't top 2. You aren't even unconditionally top 3. All of your protests to the contrary are pathetic and even though you inflate yourself on the Internet, it doesn't magically make you top 2/3 in the real world. KD is above you. Get used to it. You might be level with DG this year, but they certainly aren't behind you.

Have to completely disagree. Phi mu has stepped it up and are def above dg. All talk from
From pnm's during rush was between chi o and phi mu. It just is the truth. Why all the hate....you should be happy for them ....that's what good people would do.

Like it or not, the truth is that Chi O and Phi Mu had to top 2 pledge classes and it is very hard to separate them.

Overall Chi O and KD are tops followed by Phi Mu and DG.