let's have a critical talk about tiers

Alpha Phi is ALL OVER this site talking about how great it is. If they spent as much time studying, they might actually have a chance at moving up. right now they are a less-than-average house. They may get some points for looks (though they have a few beasts in that house), but they really drop the ball when it comes to leadership, activities and academics. I don't even know ONE GIRL in that house with a challenging major.

Nice try, Alpha Phi. But the most current stats available (spring 2015) Alpha Phi is 14th on the list of PanHel sororities. And they just keep heading lower. You really need to learn how to read a spreadsheet, Alpha Phi, because as a secretary you will need to know that.

don't actually think that last poster is actually a gphi but I do agree with her-even if shes an aphi

Nice try APhi and GPhi, but the fact is that you can't be top tier unless you are the real deal. That includes grades, whether you bottom-feeders want to acknowledge that or not. GPhi says it gets the girls it wants, but it aims so low that that is hardly commendable. And APhi is so stupid they try to convince us their grades are better than they are when all we have to do is look at the Greek Life website. And look what we find there. GPhis grades are even lower than APhi.

Sorry but grades effect the individual not the sorority. My sisters grades have nothing to do with me in the slightest! And pnms don't choose a sorority based on grades... For the simple reason it has zero effect on anything past the individual! I realize it's the only insult you have for GPhi or APhi but your argument is just irrelevant.

"Grades affect (notice she wrote 'effect,' which is wrong) the individual and not the sorority?" Nice try, but you couldn't be more wrong. When you have strict grade cuts, you pledge only smart girls. When you pledge smart girls you keep your standards high. When you have high standards, you get the cream of the crop. No self-respecting PNM who aims high would be caught in a house that doesn't take grades seriously. Plus, when you surround yourself with like-minded women, everyone is elevated. Only someone who doesn't care about grades would insist grades don't matter -- because to her they don't.

To 'get serious'.Are you kidding me? When you pledge smart girls you keep your standards high? Well praise the lord all of the smart people in this world don't make mistakes . That is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard.

I'd say Delta down to where ADPi used to be. Delta to upper middle tier.

There were girls pledging Zeta over KD in my Pi chi group. But there were also a few girls pledging them I've Tri Delt (why? Idk but it's not a lie) there were also some girls who chose them over ADPi and Kappa, and some girls who didn't.

Here's something you'll learn as you get older. What boys think of you isn't the most important thing in the world. Stunning, I know. But some of us like to focus on improving ourselves instead of tailoring our looks and interests for men.

KD has fallen. Five years ago when my sister was Greek here, KD and AXO were interchangeable. Now? AXO is without a doubt better than KD is. They've been on a downward slide since then.