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informal... what do i do?

by: nervous and exhausted

Like many others, I've been going through informal recruitment. I honestly feel like I have tried everything. I have emailed the houses that I am absolutely in love with. One of them responded saying they would pass my name along to the VP of recruitment. I know that's a good sign, but I don't know what else to do? I've actually become emotionally drained from this. Do some houses just go by connections? I'm sorry... just confused and super exhausted.

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#1  by: really?   
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OK. You know what? There are lots of ways to make friends in college and sorority life is just one of them. I wouldn't give the houses who do informal the satisfaction of playing their game. It's inherently secretive and totally unfair. It also is probably discriminatory since I don't know even one woman of color who joined a house through information rush or COBing. If I'm wrong about this, let me know. But the reality is that the deck is stacked against you unless you know someone in a house and the houses who do informal LOVE to mess with people and make them feel less than worthy because that's how so many of them felt during rush in August. If you can't go through formal rush I wouldn't bother. Just find a different way to make lasting friends. Because I wouldn't want to join a house that takes pride in being unfair, discriminatory and not playing by the rules. It's time for Panhel to step up and take the mystery out of informal rush. And it's time for the OP to not waste even one more second being "emotionally drained" over something as f'ed up as informal rush. There's a reason the best houses don't want to be a part of it.

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by: yupSep 28, 2015 9:43:07 AM

We've talked about this in exec because technically we could take two girls in informal. But not one person wants to do it because we never want to be the house that just takes friends of members. We want the best and the brightest and that means checking applications, resumes, getting recs and spending some time with a wide range of girls so that we know who is available. All of the above are absolutely contrary to how informal is done. No thanks. We want no part of it. Now, if Panhel wants to really get involved, have a week of parties so that potential members are able to see every house that has spaces to fill, well, we're on board with that. But until then we don't want to be part of an inherently unfair system.

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by: noSep 28, 2015 11:19:00 AM

Personally, I find informal receuitment so much more fair than formal recruitment. The only unfair thing is how fewer girls they take so not everyone gets a shot. But informal recruitment IS based on connections and who you actually are and whether or not you actually fit in with a house. You have an entire semester to make a connection with houses rather than one week and some crappy superficial 5 minute conversations. I think if everyone went through a second semester rush, or "informal", then people would be a lot happier in their houses. So to the op, don't get discouraged. Just meet some girls. You don't have to be in the house to befriend them.

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by: For Real????Sep 28, 2015 1:47:17 PM

How in the world can you say the informal process is more fair than formal recruitment when you don't even get a chance to visit a house or make an impression unless you know someone. Here's a hint: when a recruitment process is based exclusively on connections, it is inherently unfair because you don't get a chance if you don't know the right people. It needs to be cleaned up. NOW. It is an absolute black mark on an otherwise commendable system. And did you really say" Don't get discouraged... Just meet some girls." REALLY? The person who wrote this clearly is part of the problem, not part of the solution. And here's another point that we were talking about at dinner the other night. Perhaps if the houses that traditionally COB and do informal gave everyone a chance and didn't just take their friends, they would become better houses.

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by: okay...Sep 28, 2015 3:40:10 PM

@yup, are you a member of axo? if so, when do you plan on choosing the girls and will you reach out to them if you want to get to know them better?

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by: @for realSep 30, 2015 12:38:25 AM

To follow up on that, yeah. I guess I don't see anything wrong with recruiting your friends in an informal rush. That's how life is. You wanna be apart of my house? You should probably be my friend first. Informal rush isnt just a petty 5 minute conversation and seeing if I like what you're wearing or how you did your make up. I wanna actually know who I'm recruiting if I've only got 5 spots. I wanna know you well. So just like it is in the real world when you interview for a job, it's always good to know someone. And that's just how the cookie crumbles whether you like it or not. You call it shady and unfair, I call it not throwing a complete stranger who thought a simple email and meet and greet was her way in and ends up not fitting at all.

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by: disagreeOct 3, 2015 12:43:12 PM

I actually like informal recruitment. I feel like it's a better way to get to know PNMs. I do wish it were more structured so we could see more girls go through.

But at my house the actives are actively looking for girls who are bright and involved and kind and fit in with our personality. It's not just about connections.

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#2  by: ugh   
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Formal recruitment is like a job interview. They only get to meet you for a short time where you put your best foot forward. They already have your resume and are going by that first, then the face to face. They may or may not invite you back for a second interview (round), and so forth. You may or may not get the job (spot in the House). Deal with it. Life isn't fair. Everyone isn't qualified to be there.

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