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Don’t fall for bid promising

by: Yeet

I’m not going to name any names, but certain chapter get a little too caught up with getting headliner girls to join and sometimes they like to break the rules of recruitment and promise PNMs a bid during recruitment. And unfortunately many end up suicide bidding (only picking one chapter after preference round) because they feel certain that’s the house they’re joining then come bid day their pi chi’s call in the morning saying they didn’t receive a bid. A single girl does not have the power to ensure you’ll be in the sorority so don’t fall for that. It’s not that they do this to harm the PNM, it’s just some girls overestimate how much the rest of the chapter wants someone. Chapters vote on ranked spots for their bid list after the last round, which is used for the bid matching process. So essentially if you are not ranked within or relatively near the spots for the bid quota and only picked one house on preference round then you won’t get matched with a bid. If you select your maximum amount of options on preference round you will get a bid no matter what. Chapter are allowed quota additions for the girls who made it to preference round, chose the max options, but the system didn’t initially match (you’ll never know where you ranked on a bid list or if you’re a quota addition, don’t worry babe). I believe in that scenario you’ll get a bid to the chapter you ranked first, but not entirely sure. And chapters are just fine with quota additions because by preference round all the girls invited are considered women that sorority sees could fit into their sisterhood well. There’s my rant. I just hate seeing girls get screwed over a chance to join a sorority in the fall because they got caught up in a promised that couldn’t necessarily be kept

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#1  by: miz pnm   
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thank you for this <3

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#2  by: too bad   
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It's too bad the chapter leadership(s) and panhellenic aren't more explicit with the memberships about this, because bid promising is about the worst rush infraction there is.

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#3  by: But……   
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Many times a PNM misconstrues things. An active in XYZ may tell a girl how much she wants her in their house but that is NOT a bid promise nor is it dirty rushing.

By: But……
by: SarahAug 9, 2023 10:37:58 AM

No, if you are an active this is extremely irresponsible thing to say to a pnm. We all know you can love a pnm but they still get cut for some other reason. I was a pi chi and dealt with broken hearts after girls got cut from houses where the actives told them they wanted them in their house. It totally crushed their spirits and made them distrustful of the whole process.

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#4  by: Bid   
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The chapters who do this have a high new member drop rate. Unfortunately, we don't see those numbers but it is by word of mouth and everyone knows. So many so called "top" sororities have a high new member drop rate because the take women superficially.

By: Bid
by: Huh?Aug 12, 2023 4:37:47 PM

What are you talking about? It's easy to determine drop rates by simply looking at who does informal/COBing. It's the same houses every year, and it has little or nothing to do with bid promising and everything to do with chapters taking girls who can't make grades/leave school/don't want to put in the work.

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by: Not true at allAug 13, 2023 6:02:03 PM

COB has nothing to do with drop rates. There are two things, quota and total house. Quota is set during formal rush. Everyone gets the same number based on a lot of factors but in short, number of PNM is a big one. Then there is total house, maximum number of members allowed and that can fluctuate depending on campus. So you can meet quota and do COB if you house isn't at total. So, for example, we lose 80 seniors/girls go inacrive and were 20 less than total house. Let's say quota is at 70. We can meet quota and then COB for up to 30 more NMs. No one dropped and we aren't begging for members. We just have room maybe we didn't COB or we did and only took a few because those were the only fit.

Also, COB has absolutely nothing to do with drop rates, especially right now. We had a drop in NMs in 2020 and 2021 and we were all below total house. Now, our numbers from PC22 have made all our houses get closer to total house. PC23 has slightly more than PC22. You will see most house push COB this semester to be at total house. The closer you get to total house means more money and usually more support from nationals. We usually care less about quota and more about total house.

Also, some chapters are forbidden by their nationals from doing COB or penalized by PHA and are not allowed to participate. Some chapters will skip COB for various reasons and have less members because their nationals don't care about total house (in general more expensive sororities don't care about total house.)

We don't get the drop rates, ever and COB has little to do with it. We know which houses have a lot of girls drop because we talk.

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by: COBAug 13, 2023 7:21:44 PM

No nationals forbids their chapters to COB. COB is allowed for all NPC sorority chapters that are eligible. Whether a chapter is eligible to COB depends on where panhellenic has set house total for a semester.

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#5  by: Must maximize every day   
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Just to clarify... A PNM must maximize her options after EVERY DAY of recruitment - not just after preference - in order to ensure a bid on bid day.

By: Must maximize every day
by: COBAug 13, 2023 7:27:02 PM

What does that even mean? A pnm can't opt out of ranking any house she attended, or attending any party that she is invited to. She ranks all her houses and goes where her schedule tells her to go. The maximizing options thing is automatic with RFM. If a pnm doesn't cooperate she is dismissed from recruitment. Every pnm is guaranteed a bid if she doesn't SIP.

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