am i the only person?

It can be told that something positive is indeed coming out of this thread. As of this afternoon Panhellenic reps will be interviewing houses that COB and determining whether these allegations are true. It was determined that potential new members have the right to honest and timely communication about their COB status. And I think Panhell is right to look into this. The procedure is blatantly unfair and some houses are really abusing the situation. I never thought I would say this, but thank God for GreekRank.

Well if you are going to take down The COB process, might as well start attacking the formal process too. It's even more unfair than cob. I mean, some girls have friends or sisters in houses before they rush and so they know what to wear and what to say, and come in with numerous recs. but what about those poor girls who know nothing about Greek life? Or any of our houses? The horror that they have an unfair advantage! They'll slip through the cracks and may not end up in a house at all!! How unfair!! And then when they try to cob but made no effort to make necessary connections like the girls who had the advantage in formal rush did, they go and and it on the system!! The horror!!! What ever shall we do!?

To Actually: that is indeed good news. However, Panhellenic reps interviewing houses that are COBing about COBing is like the IRS auditing it's own taxes, or "Congressional probes" into Congressional wrongdoing. Perhaps some of the girls on this thread who never heard back from a sorority/ies should email Panhell themselves.
And finally, the courtesy of a response isn't a dismantling of the entire COB process. To be fair, the COB process IS informal, but as my grandma taught me, "informal" doesn't mean "casual".

You wanna talk about PNMs being treated fairly? Then let's talk about the Fall Rush process because when I rushed, I was hardly treated like a human being in some houses. A few things I had happen when I rushed in the Fall include, but are not limited too...

- Getting asked how much money my parents made
- Getting pestered to answer how much my parents made when I refused to answer
- Getting hot seated (Two actives talking to one PNM and grilling her)
- Got promised bids in two houses (Neither I cared about but still)

The process of getting into a house is unfair, across the board. But if you wanna dismantle COB, then let's follow through and start punishing houses that abuse the process in the Fall as well.

The difference, Word, is that you got to meet people, see the house and be asked those questions that you didn't want to answer. The way COB works is that people who are interested in a house don't necessarily get that chance, or even the courtesy of a reply to an email. I am firmly convinced that the houses COBing do it because they are used to getting the dregs of the people going through rush and they, for once, like having some power. All I can say is it is far better to go through fall rush, even as a sophomore, than deal with COBing with loser houses.

Yeah, I'm convinced you're not even in a house. You clearly got cut from a COB house and you've decided to come on here and vent about the prices, which if fine I guess. But you're clearly sour about not being considered good enough. The simple fact is nobody in a top tier house cares what bottom tier houses are doing and don't give a damn about the COB process. You're being very transparent and I think you should stop.

Enough already, do you have any proof discrimination is NOT happening. When rush chairmen get to pick and choose based on emails they can choose whomever they want. How do we know they aren't just choosing the little white girls? That's the problem with this system: when not everyone is considered discrimination can indeed be a problem. And if they aren't discriminating in some way, why do they prefer to keep things so secretive? I am in a house that doesn't COB, but I have a high school friend who lives in the dorm (a year younger) who is black and sent emails to three houses that she heard would be participating in COBing. To date, she has heard from no one. Is it discrimination? YOU be the judge.

This person is obviously just stretching to latch on to anything that may give her some leverage to take it up to PHA. But again, as it's been mentioned numerous times already, there are reasons to why the system is the way it is and reasons to why this way works. There are much bigger problems in Greek life to deal with than just getting your feelings hurt bc you didn't get an apology letter for not getting a bid. At this point, you're just embarrassing yourself bc we know you're not Greek you're just a lousy GDI trying to disturb our system bc you got cut. Stop giving this lunatic the time of day, obviously she has nothing better to do than spend all her time on a website trying to get her revenge on Greek life.

I cannot even believe race is being brought into this. As a black woman who COB'd last Spring I can tell you right now that my race was never an issue when trying to COB. Maybe your friend wasn't qualified enough to be greek. And I'm not sure if you've seen the houses that COB but here's a nice little observation I've made...

- Mizzou Greek Life is mostly affluent white girls
- The most racially diverse houses I've seen are considered bottom tier
- Bottom tier houses COB more than other houses

So I'm unsure how you can look at a house that has mixed races and backgrounds and claim your friend was cut just because she was black. Maybe your friend just sucks.

Why is not accepting rudeness and bad manners naive and immature? College is a time to start making a difference in the world. Why not start with rush?

I'd also like to point out that when you get into the real world and start putting your resume out there, you will not get emails back if people aren't interested. They'll ignore you. So start getting used to it.

If you think the the world around you revolves around fairness and courtesy it's time you wake up from your dream and get a reality check. I completely agree with "YES" and "yep!" When was the last time you applied for a job and never heard anything back? All the time! It is YOUR responsibility to follow up- not there's. Rush is the same way. Don't wait for life to happen, it'll just pass you by!

There are very very few houses that do not participate in COB. Aside from those couple houses and the bottom tier houses that need more girls like mentioned above, all the other houses do "quiet" COBing. GPhi, APhi, AXO, KD, ADPi, DG, ZTA, etc. - all of those houses COB and only accept a handful of girls. Some of the houses listed do not necessarily need more girls to fill their house, but are required to COB because their nationals make them (ADPi and AXO i know for sure). Anyways, my argument is the COB process is just as fair as fall recruitment. Some girls come in knowing everything about greek life, they already have friends or older sisters vouching for them inside. Some girls go through and know absolutely nothing and come in with no recs at all. Houses that look at recs already "target" the girls they want when they walk through the door. Same thing in COB. An initiate gives the house her friend's name and the house does research before hand to see if she's a good fit (grades, involvement, etc). The only difference between COB and formal rush is the fact that in formal you're trying to fill an entire 80+ girl pc, and in COB there may only be a few spots. In order to save time and energy it just makes sense for a chapter to go by "word of mouth" instead of interviewing hundreds of girls. I would be extremely intimidated knowing that there were 100 girls rushing and only 3 spots. Can you imagine the amount of hopefuls getting their hearts broken?