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am i the only person?

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Am I the only person who has a problem with the COB process? As we can see from the interest on this website, lots of girls are interested in pledging in spring. And while fall rush is extremely organized and has strict rules and regulations that even the playing field, COB-ing is more about who you know. I'm in a house that isn't COB-ing, but my heart goes out to the girls who have expressed interest, contacted the people they are supposed to contact and have done everything right, and still they haven't heard from prospective houses. It seems to me Panhel could do a much better job of lending some rhyme and reason to this process. It simply isn't fair to keep these girls guessing, just because they "don't know" the right people.

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#11by: My opinion   
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Honestly I COB'd but am very aware of the politics behind going Greek in general. Whether it's rush or COB'ing. a lot of Greek Life has to do with who you know. It's just the way it is. And honestly life is no different. People with connections usually get ahead, that's just the way it is. Now that isn't to say that there aren't LOTS of girls who Rush/COB completely on their own (neither with legacies or recs) and still end up exactly where they want to be whether it's a top, middle, or bottom tier house. (Yes ladies, not everyone is interested in being top tier.. Some girls actually do care more about being Greek than just the label!) It is easier when you know people, but that's just life. It's easier to get a job if someone who works there can vouch for your abilities, character, etc. Same goes for rush or COB'ing. But that should not discourage anyone… Often times it is easy to tell whether someone is being genuine, legacy or not. If you seem like you'd fit in and you're what the chapter is looking for, you have a good chance. I'm just saying it isn't fool proof and always fair, but honestly what is in life anyways? Just my thought!

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#12by: Yep!   
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EXACTLY. Sorry you are heartbroken from a house that cut you during COB but life's not fair and you can't just go around blaming and pointing fingers just because you didn't get your way. There are much bigger problems out there and 1 person trying to take revenge on Greek life seems really insignificant compared to much bigger problems in Greek life. Plus, you can talk to PHA until you're blue in the face, but everyone knows the rush process won't change bc there's just no way to make everyone happy. All you can do is forgive and move on. Throwing a fit about not getting a "sorry we didn't want you" email is extremely naive and immature. You're in college, start acting like it.

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by: Yes...   

Why is not accepting rudeness and bad manners naive and immature? College is a time to start making a difference in the world. Why not start with rush?

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by: YES   

I'd also like to point out that when you get into the real world and start putting your resume out there, you will not get emails back if people aren't interested. They'll ignore you. So start getting used to it.

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by: Truth hurts   

If you think the the world around you revolves around fairness and courtesy it's time you wake up from your dream and get a reality check. I completely agree with "YES" and "yep!" When was the last time you applied for a job and never heard anything back? All the time! It is YOUR responsibility to follow up- not there's. Rush is the same way. Don't wait for life to happen, it'll just pass you by!

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#13by: I cobed   
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I COBed Aphi, AXO, and ADPi a couple years ago. I got bids to axo and adpi, but not to aphi. Aphi sent me an email saying that their cob process was over and they accepted ## girls. A girl down the hall in my dorm cobed axo and aphi and got an email from both houses saying the same thing. I'm not sure where this "no courtesy email" is coming from but I've never heard a problem with it, at least for the houses mentioned. Maybe there are other houses that didn't give a notice, or maybe it didn't just happen this year?

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#14by: No.   
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Personally speaking for my house, we had every girl who was interested in joining us submit their GPA along with their info and any woman who met our grade cut offs got open invitations to several low-key activities throughout the week in order to meet sisters. We did a mini recruitment and then had a preference night where we narrowed the field and paired girls one on one to see if the fit was good.

We rushed about ninety rushed and took about thirty.

And I'm in a bottom tier house. Like, actual bottom tier and I'll admit that.

I'm unsure what about the way we did things in considered unfair. Any girl who met out GPA recruitment was invited to come to any of our open events and in my opinion it worked very well and we got a great PC.

Whoever is accusing the bottom tier of trying to be jerks and act important doesn't know what she's talking about because the other two bottom tier houses do it the same way we do. The houses that actually COB "unfairly" are AXO and APhi and honestly, I would COB the same way they do if we only needed six or so girls. Why put together an entire mini recruitment if you know what you want and only need to fill five spots?

We do what we do because we needed to fill more spots and a house like AXO takes the word of initiated sisters because COB isn't as big a deal for them.

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by: the process   

There are very very few houses that do not participate in COB. Aside from those couple houses and the bottom tier houses that need more girls like mentioned above, all the other houses do "quiet" COBing. GPhi, APhi, AXO, KD, ADPi, DG, ZTA, etc. - all of those houses COB and only accept a handful of girls. Some of the houses listed do not necessarily need more girls to fill their house, but are required to COB because their nationals make them (ADPi and AXO i know for sure). Anyways, my argument is the COB process is just as fair as fall recruitment. Some girls come in knowing everything about greek life, they already have friends or older sisters vouching for them inside. Some girls go through and know absolutely nothing and come in with no recs at all. Houses that look at recs already "target" the girls they want when they walk through the door. Same thing in COB. An initiate gives the house her friend's name and the house does research before hand to see if she's a good fit (grades, involvement, etc). The only difference between COB and formal rush is the fact that in formal you're trying to fill an entire 80+ girl pc, and in COB there may only be a few spots. In order to save time and energy it just makes sense for a chapter to go by "word of mouth" instead of interviewing hundreds of girls. I would be extremely intimidated knowing that there were 100 girls rushing and only 3 spots. Can you imagine the amount of hopefuls getting their hearts broken?

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