frats gone

That's a pretty long list. And no one misses any of them. Good riddance.

SAE Nationals doesn’t understand how a fraternity works.

If a fraternity bans hazing and forced their chapters to initiate early that only drives hazing underground where it gets even worse and makes it so there is no longer a time limit on the “pledging” of new members. It also prevents them from dropping since they cannot rejoin another fraternity.

SAE should’ve taken further actions to prevent hazing but what they ended doing was just a piss poor attempt deflecting the blame from themselves and onto their individual chapters so they could save on the insurance money. And now if a SAE chapter even asks their new members to do simple things like learn chapter history or clean up after parties or drive drunk people home they get in trouble with nationals

These comments arnt wrong, the Nationals of SAE suck. How can they be against driving a girl home that is drunk, getting them home safe... in my opinion I think that is the best thing to do and we all took turns doing it each party. Im sure the girls appreciate it too! Also to note, our chapter got in trouble on false accusations written by a pledge who sent a letter to the national office, who was dropped earlier, trying to get the house in trouble. Because of this world we live in you have to take these cases seriously, but there was no proof of anything through the investigation which why it was questionable to remove this great chapter.

Were the SAE sober drivers limited to pledges?

Are you really blaming SAE for getting your sisters drunk? Have you ever been to a fraternity party? If someone drinks too much and can’t walk home it’s their fault, not the fraternity’s.

If the drunken sister is underage and SAE was the one serving her liquor in their house, yes it their fault.

If she’s underage? Are you even in college lol

FYI....Colleges have underage students ranging from 18-20. My question to you...do you know the differnce? Obviously NOT.

Yes, and they all drink. So why are you blaming SAE for people taking part in normal activities at one of their parties?

"If the drunken sister is underage and SAE was the one serving her liquor in their house, yes it their fault."

Really...So nobody is responsible for their own alcohol consumption any more? What an embarrassing statement. Of course SAE should cut off people that are obviously obliterated, but that is not always evident. People need to be responsible for themselves, period! End of story.

Parents who let underage teens drink in their home can be charged with a crime. Bartenders who overserve customers and let them leave drunk and drive can be charged with a crime. Establishments who serve underage patrons can be charged with a crime. Now, tell me again that SAE did nothing wrong? Stupid is as stupid does.

“Dry frat”

Way for their nationals to make them irrelevant to girls and rushes