worst experience during recruitment

It's a system that has worked for decades -- on our campus and on others. It is part of the reason our Greek system is so strong. Yes, it involves judging, but it is not based on just a seven minute conversation. It is about grades, involvement, recommendations, background, history. But most of all it is about the connection you make over the course of several days. Only someone who had never been on the other side of recruitment would call it superficial because, I assure you, it is anything but superficial.

So you admit you have never been on the other side of rush, and yet you have the nerve to tell us that the system is a failure. Each and everyone one of us went through the process and we have had a good long time to determine just how well it works. Now, if you would like to get back to us in a year, your comments might have some validity. But until then, you are speaking out of ignorance, and that's not a good quality.

I think Mizzou IS ready for another house to join PHA.

I also think that only giving PNMs 2 choices vs. 3 at Pref was a drastic change.

And for those that state that Mizzou's process is the best/only way, they need to do a little research on how recruitment is handled at other universities.

It's pretty much the same across the board.

Yes, rush is pretty much the same at most universities. I'm saddened that someone who graduated decades ago still doesn't have the reading comprehension skills to understand the point that it doesn't do much good to look into how other universities do it because the Mizzou model is pretty much the same across the board. Now, here's my suggestion. Instead of continuing to fight your daughter's battles, why don't you get a life and let her have a little breathing room, too? She's 18. Time to let go. And in your free time you could work on those reading comprehension skills.

There are other university systems that do thing slightly different. Attend your sororities National Convention and see how other chapters across the country do it.

Another way you can enlighten your mind is by helping a colony from your sorority establish themselves on the Mizzou or another campus.

Starting from scratch with no knowledge/experience about another University's campus or culture and bringing together many different and new ideas is refreshing.

It is called learning "best practices" and can only improve a specific chapter, college system or division or even an HQ of a sorority.

Accepting the "that's the way it's always been done" mentality limits the greatness and doesn't allow a sorority or Greek system to continuously improve and become better and smarter about what they do, and how they go about doing it.

Been there, done that. For someone who hasn't been on this campus in more than 30 years, you sure are quick to assume things aren't working. I understand that you and your daughter were not pleased with how things went, but that's not a reason to throw out a system that is the envy of college campuses across the nation. No one, and I mean NO ONE is sitting around resting on our laurels. No one is content with things just because they have always been done a certain way. That's why our program is constantly changing and improving. It also is the reason that when I go to regional and national meetings as both a sorority and a PanHel rep, I find that many universities look to us as leaders in innovation. Year after year women flock to Greek life at Mizzou, year after year our chapters win awards as some of the best in the nation and year after year we strive to improve to give young women the best chance at success in our many chapters. Now, if that's not good enough for you, your standards are impossibly high. But when it comes to "best practices," we write the book. Perhaps you didn't learn that from the one meeting you attended, but when your daughter has been part of Greek life for more than a week, you might have a better understanding of the efforts and standards that are a constant in Greek life at Mizzou.

And for being an adult you sure are immature. Nine thumbs up for you, nine thumbs down for the person who put you in your place -- really? Get a frickin life.

^ Yup, you sure must be some high-powered executive as you lecture us at 10 on a weekday morning on a sorority gossip site. I know that's what I aspire to when I am an adult in the business world. (P.S. Tsk Tsk: you are a joke).

To Yup - check the timestamp on the post, it was 10:34:02 PM, not AM.

And for your assumption that I'm not a high-powered executive - I've run my own company for 10 years, thank you. I've also worked at several Fortune 100 companies before I started my company. In all of these positions, I was in a hiring/firing position at the management level.

So when I make those statements about a 20-something who knows nothing about what it takes to make it in the "real world" of business, and suggest she should check her attitude at the door - I do so with years of experience to back me.

Perhaps I do know something about what I speak.

You are prob just that wacko who doesn't go here who makes things up about Aphi

I've never heard of a high-powered business executive getting off on bullying sorority girls. You are a piece of work. And I almost, for a minute, thought you might not be lying until I read this line: "Perhaps I do know something about what I speak." Yup. Written by someone who knows nothing about grammar or proper speech trying MUCH TOO HARD to convince us she's not just another troll. Sorry. But I'm not buying it. Go back to your little craft business that you started after you were fired from your piddly little HR admin job. Because you're not fooling anyone.

THANK YOU for putting that uppity undergraduate in her place!

She needs some humility and an education in how not to treat alumni/parents who pay tuition and sorority fees so she can be a PHA "leader".

SMH

Take a look at the PHA leadership, and you'll see some interesting things:

1. Most of the leadership is made up of Kappa Deltas & Zetas

2. The current PHA Board were favorites of and a parting gift from ousted Jenna Basler

3. Mizzou's sorority system needs to overhaul the current PHA leadership and start fresh.

WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS!

There's one Zeta on the board. First time they've had someone on PHA in I don't know how many years.

If you're not in college get off this site!!! Sooo creepy and weird!!

Libby, I don't believe a word of what you said. If you truly donated $12,000 a year to your sorority while watching little children go hungry in St.Louis, shame on you. And if you truly are a lawyer and on the full-time law faculty at WashU, yet are sending your daughter to Mizzou, there is something very wrong there, too, considering Wash U's generation tuition assistance plan. You know, you can't buy respect, no matter how hard you try. And you are still a sad, sad soul for spending so much time on this site and caring so much about what little sorority girls say about you.

And I agree it's time for alums to get off this board. And to the person who thinks current students' opinions aren't important because they aren't paying the bills, F you. I earned every cent of my full academic ride and I will speak up about sorority life any time I choose. I am so happy my parents have better things to do that throw their weight around on a Greek life chat board. I mean, what adult does that?

Are you really suggesting that we bow down in reverence and take the advice of some adult who has nothing better to do with her time at 7:45 on a Wednesday morning than troll a Greek life gossip site? Really? We all have experience. It's just that yours is ancient history. In the past 20 years there has not been even one year in which 500 girls didn't leave rush without pledging. And yet our system remains the envy of campuses across the nation. Here's a news flash: Greek life at Mizzou has ALWAYS been about quality, not quantity. It was so in the 1970s when chapters were closing on major campuses across the country, but our system remained strong. And it remains so when there is a dip in demographics and when the university has experienced an enrollment downturn. Your goal is to weaken an extremely strong system, and we really aren't interested -- even when people pay to go through rush. Why is it always about money to you? Who pays the bills, who writes the checks? To us it is about the sisterhood and, first and foremost making it available to those who REALLY want to be Greek, not those who drop out because some top tier house cut them because they didn't measure up. Now, go fold some wash or something, because Mizzou recruitment is doing just fine without you.

Perfect and thoughtful response.

Perfect and thoughtful response.

Thanks for this, Enough. There is something truly pathetic about alums coming on this site and lecturing those of us who are in the trenches every day, trying to make rush work for the majority of PNMs and keeping our standards high. And if these alums truly think they have the right to tell us how to improve recruitment because they are paying the bills, that is SO disrespectful. Every one of my friends in the house had a summer job and each and every one of my friends helps pay her college expenses. I don't know what world that alum is living in, but her comments certainly are not relevant to today's college situation. I've known my share of people with helicopter parents, whose mothers have nothing better to do than micromanage their lives. What is amazing to me is that these women think they can tell everyone else what to do, too, just because they're bored and unsatisfied. This is one of those cases where these women truly need to get a life of their own.

^ So true. What self-respecting 40-something has the time or inclination to spend so much time on a college sorority gossip website? And what self-respecting 40-something is so over-invested in her daughter's life that she has to manage it from afar? This is BEYOND pathetic.

The Adpi girl