legacies, supposed top houses and so on
by: okSome already know this, and some do not but to clarify. Our 'top' houses are considered 'top' because of 2 main things-they are more selective and their grades are better. However, because the 3 houses many refer to as 'top' are also known nationally as a more established sorority(being around longer with more chapters across the country) they naturally will have more legacies going through recruitment. Those 'top' houses have to be more 'selective' to maintain their standing, and if they are getting 10 times the number of legacies that other houses get, they obviously can not take all of them because, as stated numerous times, they would fill their pledge class with only legacies. So an easy way for them to cut legacies, is, first, by grades. Now some of the other houses on this campus which do not have such a large national organization, or have not been on this campus as long, get fewer legacies, and most houses here take ALL legacies(that comes down from nationals), thus taking more 'grade risks'. Since a very large proportion of our greek pnm's are from Missouri, many are direct legacies of Mizzou, thus some of those houses that have been on this campus the longest.So those houses that have bragged about not being able to take all legacies, and cutting 2/3 of them, obviously could be more selective just based upon the fact of girls wanting to join their mom, sister, aunts house. Hope that helps to put it in perspective for people.
#1by: Hmmm
This actually makes total sense. And would explain why there are so many people argue about those 'top' 3 people always mention. From most every post talking about legacies, etc there are always some that say they could fill an entire pledge class, class and a half etc. So basically if you pulled out those 150 girls, and compare them to houses that have 5 legacies, totally makes sense why they are considered more 'selective'. They really aren't, just because girls put them down and even up to pref night doesn't mean they end up there. Very interesting perspective there. Just goes to show to do what you want, not what you feel you should do because you are a legacy. Totally makes sense with grades also-of course they'll cut the lowest of the grades with legacies to keep their house average up.
Comment#2by: ^^^Thanks^^^^
Yes, this makes sense and thanks for posting. But the legacy "problem" is not just about the top 3 houses (PiPhi, ChiO and TriDelt). It is about many houses on our campus who have been here the longest time and who have strong nationals. I would say Kappa, ADPi and Theta also have similar concerns about more legacies than they have space for and needing to be super-selective. All have been on this campus 100+ years.
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The way I read this is maybe our 'top' houses aren't as great as they try to make themselves out to be. It's kind of like throwing a party-they have the most people wanting to come back because most of them are family and/or have a connection. If you take all legacies out of every house here and look at the numbers and who wants to go back to certain houses, those top 3 would not be top 3. The reason they get their 'choice' (don't even agree they do)is because they have so many legacy to cut. Legacies are always asked back a second time and then cut. Most other houses take grade risk legacies, they don't. Of course they should have great grades(should be better in my opinion). I now understand why people have said the top tier has changed, girls wanting a house only because they are legacy doesn't say too much about that girl, does it? Just because her mom or sister are in a house doesn't mean she connects with the girls in the house, you can't choose your family but you can choose your 'sisters'.
by: Seriously???
There are girls who are so devastated that they didn't get asked back to the houses they wanted that they dropped rush. Almost 40%. So clearly it's pretty devastating to them.
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Stop being so defensive and re read what she said. About the 'girls that drop' because they didn't get A house they wanted. Narrow minded girls that are always trying to fit in or go to what they 'think' is a popular choice. Are they looking for a sisterhood or just to follow others. Do they think they are too good for other houses? Probably. Are they the type of girl you would want as a sister? Probably not. Would they really add anything to a house? Probably not. And you're a little off with your 40%. And I wouldn't say they are 'devastated', they are spoiled brats that didn't get what they wanted so they quit.
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by: Really?
Thanks for trying to clarify your original nonsensical comment. You sure do have a way of stereotyping, don't you? So if someone is disappointed with how rush is going for them that automatically makes them not worth having as a sister? According to you, they are spoiled brats who wouldn't add ANYTHING to a house. Really? What if they were a legacy and wanted to be in the same house as their sister and their mother and grandmother? Their hopes are dashed and you call them names? What if they worked extremely hard to be at top of their class grade-wise and know that they need an environment that values academics in order to keep performing well? They should just settle for a house where their pledge class gets a 2.9? What if they gave rush a try and after several rounds of parties decided it just isn't for them? According to you, if they drop it's because they have a superiority complex? There are all kinds of girls who go through rush. Each is an individual and should be treated that way. When you unilaterally draw conclusions about hundreds of girls you haven't met, I find myself wondering whose thought process is faulty. How dare you stereotype girls who try their hardest but are disappointed. How dare you be so cruel?
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by: Yup
Answer her question. How dare you be so cruel? How dare you stereotype? Hoe dare you not treat individuals with the respect they deserve?
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by: Seriously?
To the drama queen above. IF that girl who worked her a s s off in high school to be 'at the top of her game' has mothers, grandmothers aunts and cousins in her dream house gets CUT by her 'dream' house and then quits-there's a problem. The ONLY reason certain houses cut legacies is because of GRADES. so this drama driven scenario makes no sense because as you stated above you would not cut a girl like that. But do answer the question-is your life an every day soap opera? Theater major? What's your deal? And to answer your other house, if a girl goes in to recruitment with only one house in mind-I don't care how absolutely perfect she is-if she drops out when she gets cut from one house and doesn't go through the rest of the experience-yes, she's a spoiled brat.
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If you think the only reason legacies get cut is because of grades, well, you probably have never been on the other side of rush. Get back to me after you have been. Or, perhaps you are in a house that would be thrilled to get a legacy -- your own or some other sorority's. I don't know what your problem is but you're pretty ignorant about the process.
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Their legacy numbers are that much higher so it skews all other numbers. What is the %'age of people from Missouri that attend this university? Extremely high. There are a ton of legacies. Pull the legacies out and the numbers are NOT that high-that is an absolute fact.
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Their legacy numbers are that much higher so it skews all other numbers. What is the %'age of people from Missouri that attend this university? Extremely high. There are a ton of legacies. Pull the legacies out and the numbers are NOT that high-that is an absolute fact.
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by: Just stop
There is an ignorant girl on this website who has posted no fewer than 6 times in one day that the top 3 houses at Mizzou have more legacies and that's why they are popular. She even said that the only reason houses cut their legacies is because of grades. This girl couldn't be more ill-informed, but she just keeps repeating her lies. The number of legcies has nothing to do with a house's popularity. If it did, DG, APhi and ADPi would be top houses, too, because they have been on this campus a hella long time. The only relative newcomers to Mizzou are Sigma, PhiMu, KD, Zeta and SK (but SK has been here in previous generations).
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It seems you are the only one saying nasty things. And your 'statistics' are way off. And what do you consider your top house? I think you were assuming certain things. And clearly it's pretty traumatic for you to be in a house where there are so many connections because you are having such a hard time cutting people. Please, get over it. There is one house here who's biggest draw is their philanthropy-that's it. It's not about the sisterhood, way too many previous connections for any true bonding(basically you reinforced that with your statement). As was stated, take all legacies out of the picture and those one dimensional houses that SOME consider top are just average with the number of girls wanting to return. And next time check your facts. KKG is the oldest house here and they don 't have a problem filling a pledge class. Nor do 80% of our sororities. Get off your pedestal regarding what you think is one of the top houses here. Picking a majority of girls that you know, and also cutting some, is not selective, at all. There are about 7 top tier houses here based upon being selective. I've yet to ever read a post by someone saying they are still so devastated they didn't get in to a certain house(yes, even YOUR house). For the girls that drop because they don't get the house they wanted-they weren't looking for a sisterhood or to be part of a system-they are just coming across as narrow minded individuals not looking to expand their circle.
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