quota
by: ADoes anyone know what the quota is supposed to be this year?
#1 by: .
I'm assuming 135. That's not a fact, it just follows the trend based on the last 4 years. Every year it seems to go up 15-20, which is absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. No pledge class should EVER be over 110 in my opinion. It's time for Panhellenic to either have a maximum rush limit, or it's time they have a gpa cut off. They will have to do something in the next few years.
Commentby: actJun 21, 2015 6:22:20 PM
I agree with Curious, I think being more strict in the beginning and saying girls without a 3.0 shouldn't bother would help a lot since they usually get cut first round anyway
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by: ActiveJun 21, 2015 7:12:48 PM
I really think a minimum GPA requirement would help so much. Not only would it help pledge class numbers, it would help chapters with lower GPA's get them up and would improve all the chapters. It's hard for the lower chapters when Panhellenic sets the house total so high, they're forced to take girls they don't want and who don't really deserve bids in the first place.
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by: pnmJun 21, 2015 7:41:15 PM
Quick question, so the suggestions are that you have above a 3.0, but why do chapters still take lower than that? This might be a dumb question
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by: !!!Jun 21, 2015 7:42:56 PM
I'd say a about a 3.1 gpa cut off. That would allow us to get rid of a few hundred pnms, and like you said above, it would give all houses good girls and every house would have a better advantage to making better grades
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by: ...Jun 21, 2015 7:50:29 PM
by: Active 2Jun 21, 2015 8:00:50 PM
3500 is a number that a lot of actives seem to have heard from their exec members and Panhellenic reps, but I would take it with a grain of salt. There is no possible way we would have jumped 1000 PNM's in one year.
@pnm, there are several reasons a house would take girls with low GPAs. For the more selective houses, connections are probably the only reason. There are a few houses that value looks above grades, and therefore are less picky about GPA. The one that could be remedied by a GPA cutoff, in my opinion, is houses that don't have a choice. There are two branches to this one; houses that have been bullied for having less attractive women and are now taking pretty girls with bad GPAs in an attempt to get the other houses off their backs, and houses that are basically forced to take grade and rep risks because the bid rate is so high. The second is more annoying in my opinion.
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#3 by: bump
one solution to the huge pledge class numbers is expansion (and/or getting SDT to participate in formal recruitment with help from other chapters)
And quota isn't determined until pref night and pref cards are signed, but it is true that chapters are told to expect a "quota range"
#4 by: The right mix
Panhellenic wishes every girl that "qualifies" -- finds a home. Chapters want to choose who fits with them. Unfortunately there is a percentage of women that feel they ended up in the wrong chapter and now those chapters have to deal with too big a pledge class. The balance of "size of pledge class" versus "offering a bid to all that want one" creates negative results.
by: OkayJul 2, 2015 10:44:15 PM
Zeta may have a pc of 175 this year with all the drops. Impossible. And with no house.
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#6 by: Active
With over 400+ girls in your house, it's really hard to get to know people and have a close sisterhood. It's not that we don't want to know each other--it's just almost physically impossible. It took me till second semester to learn everyone in my pledge class's names, much less the older girls. The only people to blame for this is Panhellenic. They want our bid rate to be so high that they forget what being in a sorority is all about.
by: WhatJul 7, 2015 5:22:13 PM
No, it definitely is possible. I learned every girl in my sororities name. Must have been your own sorority that doesn't push the sisterhood factor, because mine definitely did. What's even more sad is that it took you two semesters to learn your own pledge class. That's really really sad to me.
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by: OkJul 7, 2015 7:33:20 PM
Congrats on being able to memorize 400 girls' names in a snap. Not everyone is that way and it's a little foolish to blame it on a house's sisterhood
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by: ???Jul 7, 2015 2:51:22 PM
#10 by: self-perpetuating problem
Root Causes for this that could be remedied:
1. Prestige of Bama greek life: more students are choosing bama because of the great greek life and thus more incoming girls are rushing
2. While small PC is more beneficial for the girls and arguably the sorority as a whole, more due-paying members is also beneficial for the sorority as a whole and arguably the girls in turn. Somewhat of a conflict of interest
Pan-hell cares too much about their matching rate and being inclusive. A minimum GPA would be beneficial but if a house wants to take a girl with a 2.8 over a girl with a 3.4 its their prerogative and I don't necessarily think Pan-Hell should regulate that. Perhaps quota should just be capped at a reasonable number (100?) which would exclude more girls but make PC's more manageable and likely strengthen Greek Life as a whole.
by: HJul 7, 2015 5:24:34 PM
If Panhellenic capped quota at 100, you'd have over 1,000 girls left without bids. You can't do that. That would physically hurt Alabama. Girls would transfer back home, then Alabama as a whole would lose money.
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by: hahaJul 7, 2015 5:37:47 PM
100 was just a guess at a reasonable number which is why I included a ? mark....
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by: CuriousJun 21, 2015 6:13:49 PM
What gpa would you cut off at? Personally I'd start at a 3.0. Curious of other opinions.
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