sorority rankings: membership, grades, philanthropy

It would be recruitment return rates but those numbers aren’t shared. U could look at who made quota and rank that way. Also maybe social media engagement?

I think the stats are interesting. ZTA is strong and doesn’t get enough credit. Same w AGD. KKG is ranked significantly below other OR houses. DG is higher than I would have guessed. I’ve felt like Gphi pretends they r stronger than they are. This shows they have a lot more work to do since they r 2nd to last

for social i would use some combo of ig followers and return rates, but return rates aren’t public info. i do think that ig followers is a pretty good measure to use for popularity

Your number of members in each house does not account for membership turnover. There is one house in particular that loses a ton of members every year between fall and spring and then Cobs like crazy every spring to try to make it up. That is not retention at all.

Maybe by the amount of swaps? Meaning frats want to interact with them

please post this info

It's all on the Greek Scorecard.

Based on what?

It’s just your perception.

They have not been top in at least 5 years

They are a good house definitely but not higher than 5 . I don’t know what it is - mixture of girls now. I was on the same floor with them last year and now next door to a few and I just don’t know. There is something off.

This was literally done by stats and not personal feelings

this is interesting - thank you not the same old my sorority is best post

It is not correct because the number of members in each house does not account for drops and cobs between semesters. You can have members drop and then cob to make it up which would show a high number of members, but that's not member retention when there's big turnover.

Bad numbers is referring to APhi by the way and for the ppl who are too lazy to check the greek grade reports

Okay, I get that, so you would show the % retention from fall to spring. For example: fall total at 450, spring active at 350, for a return rate of 78% of chapter. Right?

Meaning, showing retention % rather than loss %...???

Why use only Fall to Spring for a retention calculation?

Spring to Fall is just as valid.

Maybe average them.

And how many years is it rational to go back? Once Fall to Spring for 2023/2024 is posted then it is time to let go of the same period in 2021/2022.

Fall to spring retention gives far more insight. When there is a large dip in membership in that time period it is largely from members dropping. December graduates will account for only a small number of any house's loss in that time. When a significant number leaves their sorority between fall and spring it shows issues in the house with sisterhood, leadership, or poor quality of recruiting.

But spring to fall always dips because May is the main graduation month and all houses will lose members and each will have a larger than normal graduating class bubble some years, especially if they took more upperclassmen a few years earlier.

Summer to Fall is an extremely valid measure and is stronger than Fall to Spring.

Everyone knows most seniors graduate in Spring so when a house has a surprising low percentage return in the Fall it says the house overall is weak. Not only have they lost their seniors but they have lost core members needed for formal recruitment.

The vast majority of drops happen fall to spring, not spring to fall. That is where the real metric is.

Weaker houses will have large drops from fall to spring and then COB large numbers in spring to make up for it. The COB'b members are in it for fall for tailgates and socials because they missed out the previous year, but more often than not they did not go through formal recruitment the previous fall, or not very far into the process, so aren't the best recruiters, especially at prefs, and don't understand the selection process from having been through it as pnm's. So recruitment for that house is not what it should be. It gets to be a bad cycle if it's not addressed by leadership.

No, that is not any way to judge a sorority. Sororities are for women and are about sisterhood and lifting each other up. They are not dating services for frat boys or entertainment for the general public.

That’s great that U think that way BUT the reality is that everyone does take looks and social reputation into account when choosing a sorority. The girls do it during recruitment when choosing members and PNMs do it when ranking houses. Of course guys do it too but that does play into a house’s popularity. Looks r important. If u dismiss that fact, u aren’t living in reality of Greek life.

Okay but u also need to acknowledge that more goes into sorority ranks than quantitative data. At its core, it’s a social organization and qualitative data is important too. As a social organization, reputation, social engagement and looks are all important as well. This is the reason why, AGD is on top of ur quantitative data but lower on ranks on GR. There is some qualitative data that u r missing. The same for APhi, quantitatively they r low but still popular during recruitment. There is information that u aren’t catching. So ur ranks r skewed just as someone just posting their opinions.

Also, there r ways to rank looks through qualitative data collection.

GR can be used for qualitative data. To a degree they r surveys of how ppl feel about houses.

How does one rank qualitative data??

Qualitative is not fact, therefore not data, so it can't be ranked. Opinions exist but they aren't true or false, they just are. Facts can be shown to be true or false, but opinions have no place in a ranking based on verifiable, factual data.

You can't quantify a 'vibe' either but each sorority has one and pnm's are often told "trust your gut" because the 'vibe' thing is real.

This thread is about quantifiable facts, not anything else. There is no almighty ranking authority that decides on opinions, they are just there for whoever wants to spout off.