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What is Old row

by: Me

Can someone please explain the difference between old row and new row? Is it two separate recruitments??

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#1  by: OR/NR   
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No, one recruitment. Old Row are the older, more prestigious houses on campus. It was been around since the 1950s and started as the 6 original fraternities on campus. As more frats started chapters, there houses were built on Jefferson Avenue, and became known as the “new fraternity row.” The original 6 fraternities invited their 6 favorite sororities, all of which had been on campus since the 1920s/1930s:

-Alpha Chi
-Alpha Gam
-Chi O
-Tri Delt
-Kappa
-KD

Phi Mu was invited to join in the 90s after they tried to cross the Machine (Google “Machine Alabama”). They were extended an invitation out of sympathy.

The main difference is Old Row houses tend to be old money, well-connected, and are the most desirable houses during rush (for fraternities and sororities). They are also more involved in campus politics and have more power in the Machine and more prestige on campus.

That’s why the original 6 don’t go overboard on TikTok like Zeta and Phi Mu do. They don’t have to because they will get the top girls regardless.

By: OR/NR
by: Kate from CaliforniaAug 4, 2022 9:31:00 PM

Okay that explains the tacky white Phi Mu house - that house screams new money. Lol.

Also explains the excessive amount of Zeta Tau Alpha Tik Toks. If they can’t compete for the Old Row girls I see their strategy of trying to be a “looks” house to try to be relevant.

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#2  by: zzz   
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Tik Tok makes it look like the top houses are Gamma Phi, Zeta, Alpha Phi and Pi Phi.

Interesting to see what the real ranks are. Thanks for sharing!

By: zzz
by: so cuteAug 4, 2022 11:45:07 PM

The Pi Phis look adorable.

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by: OhioAug 5, 2022 10:18:11 AM

Gamma Phi Beta looks so cute and fun. Alpha APhi looks very chill. Opposite of what they are at my school.

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#3  by: Me   
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Old row is a big deal here at bama and all the rush toks do not even scratch the surface of the real ranks here

By: Me
#4  by: Merrill   
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Old Row is old money, family connections, debutante

By: Merrill
by: Yep.Aug 5, 2022 8:39:21 AM

These old Southern institutions don’t want any outsiders in their organizations. It’s ok for a non-Southern girl to go through recruitment but hell no is she getting into our OR house.

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#5  by: Madison   
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Do many out of state girls get in Old Row?

By: Madison
by: Not Really. Aug 5, 2022 8:24:27 AM

Many of the OR houses are 99% girls from Southern states. They will say that they have out of state girls which is the truth but those girls are from GA, LA, FL, and some TX and TN. Girls from OOR (out of region) have a nearly impossible time getting a bid from OR because they don’t have a ton of connections to the Actives in the house because they didn’t attend the same high school, Bible camps, cheer camps, live in the same neighborhoods, etc. OR is all about your Southern connections. As a result, it is very difficult for a girl from the East coast, Midwest or West Coast to get into KKG, KD, XO, AXO. Those girls will get cut from those houses before the house even meets them. AGD is a little more attainable if you have a grade point average above a 4.0 and are academically strong. Really strong. DDD is more open to accepting girls from non-Southern states and a lot of OR has reacted to this by saying that they are falling in ranks as a result.

If an OOR does get into an OR house, they may be treated very poorly and be excluded from activities because they lack all the connections. Southerners are not known for their inclusivity…. Some of the OR houses call these girls “filler girls” (aka the girls they extended a bid to in order to fill their pledge class). My friend was a filler at KKG and her and 4 other OOR girls dropped the house before initiation because nobody talked to them, they weren’t invited to gatherings, etc. KD is also known for treating OOR girls this way.

However, the demographics of Bama are changing and a ton of OOR girls (from Chicago, NYC, NJ, MA, Southern CA, CT, PA, etc) are starting to attend Bama because of their very generous scholarships for out of state students. Those girls aren’t attracted to the Southern vibe of some of the OR houses and actually prefer NR where there are girls from all over the country…not just the South. It’s why houses like Zeta, PM and Alpha Phi started getting more and more popular on campus. The Southern OR members and their moms and grandmas can’t stand it.

Also, as a result of more and more OOR girls on campus and going through recruitment, some of the other NR houses are also more and more attractive to PNMs like PiPhi, DZ, GPhi. And, Theta has had strong pledge classes the last two years in part because a lot of East Coast and Midwest girls like their vibe.

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by: OkAug 5, 2022 9:10:28 AM

Is there a certain reason why 2-3 chapters do not have crimsonettes? Is the commitment for those house “heavier“ compared to the other ones?

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#6  by: Fancy Pants   
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Go home Margaret it’s late!

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#7  by: plastic   
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I had a feeling Zeta wasn’t a top house. They seem obsessed with social media and I don’t think a top house would be like that.

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#8  by: Demagorgon   
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Bumping for the person trying to bury this.

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#9  by: Fire up the grill   
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Can’t be in Old Row if you look like a rotisserie chicken. Looking at you Zeta! 💀

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