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are there any schools where alpha phi isn’t too tier?

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How do all chapters manage to have such pretty girls

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I mean they’re not top tier at Alabama so...
Hot? Yes. A top house? No.

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Their nationals requires chapters to focus on looks

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Please.

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by: true   

Do some research. It's all over the internet.

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Um...this one?

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Yeah, there was a whole thing last year where an Alpha Phi at Michigan came out and leaked that their national consultants come in and tell them to cut girls that aren’t hot enough, even if the chapter wants them, and to give bids to hot girls, even if the chapter doesn’t want them for valid reasons (like QR/grades).

Like . . . A Phi’s whole strategy here is actually their nationals’ strategy for all their chapters.

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100% true. Google Alpha Phi - Michigan and it’s the fifth link.

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yes let’s believe everything we read on the internet, it has to be true!!!

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by: well ^   

You might not believe it if only one source is reporting it. But there have been many reports from actual Alpha Phis in different parts of the country saying the same thing. At some point you just know it's true.

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It was also just really obvious what was going on if you paid any attention to Alpha Phi over the years. Ten years ago they had a bunch of chapters in the Midwest and South that were lower or mid-lower tier, and then at the same time all of them started taking the same kind of girl (fake blonde, stereotypically “hot” partiers). It was clear there were some kind of directions coming down from nationals. Nobody had any proof until that PDF though.

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Even at non-party schools/low greek involvement schools (Yale, Georgia Tech, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Wash U, Case Western) they are still the chapters most focused on looks and having the hottest girls for that campus. My grandbig was a traveling consultant after she graduated and has some STORIES.

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if it hurts to pee it was an alpha phi

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My uncle went OOS to another big uni and said they called alpha phi there “all for free”.

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Alabama is one

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There are dozens of chapters where they are in the 1st tier. Top of the top.

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It depends on who is doing the rankings you see. If it is guys and alums, you'll see one ranking. If actual actives do it, you'll get another ranking. Guys always rank the beauties higher and alums always rank their house higher no matter what. So what you're seeing isn't necessarily that they're the house most pnms want, you're seeing that most guys think they're the prettiest.

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They aren’t bottom anywhere right?

Does this make them the top NPC nationally given the strength of all chapters?

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There are no chapters where Alpha Phi has the worst returns of all sororities - unless they are new on campus - like UF. Even in that case they sometimes are not the "bottom" house after their 1st formal recruitment. Usually after the house is built they jump up to somewhere in the middle rankings.

The less prominent national sororities know this and those alums bash Alpha Phi non-stop on this site.

Alpha Phi offers their collegiate members new houses, scholarships, leadership training, heart philanthropy support, widespread alum support. Not just Alpha Phi - other strong nationals offer these same things. KKG, KAT, PiPhi, ChiO, and a few more.

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Alpha Phi is a weak national organization who tries to social climb. They have the lowest GPA on every campus they are on. They make questionable recruitment videos, have questionable recruitment practices. Their national is about to implode, they are in the midst of shady elections and appointments on a national level. It's a hot mess.

Not top tier at a lot of places: UGA, Georgia Tech, Ole Miss, Cornell, MIT, etc

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At one of the universities in my state A Phi was closed because they were poor recruiters.

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Hey - old alum - fyi - anyone can look rankings on this site. A quick look shows Alpha Phi in top rank at Cornell and MIT.

They are newer at Ole Miss, and UGA so they are in the low middle.

And what do you know about their national headquarters?

You are apparently a bitter alum of some group. Instead of focusing on APhi - maybe you should take some of that energy and figure out how to help your own group.

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You must not go to UA because here they are not a top house. They are not a top house anywhere in the south. Therefore, they aren’t that competitive or exclusive of a sorority because southern schools have the most exclusive and strongest sororities in the Nation. Alpha Phi is a Yankee and western sorority. That is why southern girls don’t typically pledge alpha phi. If they do it is because they are not really southerners and their families are carpetbaggers. Southern belles just don’t go alpha phi. So, that answers your question...in the south they just aren’t top.

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Alpha Phi does not rank in the top at most southern schools but it does rank tops at U of Virginia, Virginia Tech, Duke, some others.

Hopefully the southern sororities will keep their "exclusive" attitude. lol Hold onto that.

True story - I am in one of the following traditionally strong nationals: Theta, Kappa, Alpha Phi, Pi Phi. In the deep south a woman asked me what sorority I was in. She offered that she was a Phi Mu and when I told her which one I was in - she was speechless (with horror) and the conversation was over. I was thinking to myself...Phi Mu...ummm....ok...I have vaguely heard of that one. lol

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