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dz and theta

by: PNM

This website bashes DZ and Theta hard core. From their Instagrams, half look pretty cute and the other half not so much. DZ does seem to have prettier girls that theta in general, but both are always ranked bottom. But from other instagrams on higher ranked houses I can see similar patterns. So I’m just confused why everybody hates on them here

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#1  by: Yooo   
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Be s loser like me and go back to the beginning of the posts here and look when gphi was in that spot. Things change all the time....

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#2  by: Agree   
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Certainly this site does not help. but I personally think all our houses are great, so I do not get why any house gets bashed.

I was looking at grade reports recently, as we all do, and wondered the same. For example, I noticed that Theta's size, retention rates (drops), grades, and COB numbers were better than several other houses, some even mid-ranked. I was surprised, so I flipped back a couple of reports and the numbers seemed the same. Tbh, on campus, I've known them to be a low drama and fairly smart house, but go to GR and they are always bottom.

Why is that? Is it because they built a house last? Is it because they are not machine?

By: Agree
by: .Aug 7, 2019 6:25:25 AM

The house had a lot to do with it. They were bottom tier before but gphi was the absolute bottom house no contest. Then gphi built their house before the other bottom houses which shook things up a ton. They did also join the machine in that time but I don’t think that had anything to do with it since PNMs have no clue what that is.

Theta is a great house but I believe they stay bottom mainly because they are not that popular with PNMs during rush. What PNMs think sets the tone for the whole year. It’s impressive that they pull the grades and involvement they do despite that.

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#3  by: I know its crazy   
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Sort of wonder if the tent talk works a little in Theta's favor. When I think of superficial house, their house does not come to mind. Perhaps the PMMs so easily swayed and shaken out by opinions of strangers talking smack in PNM tent groups is one of the reasons they do not have that rep. I'm thinking (especially as we move to a more academically competitive environment) that there are women who pick up the difference and are looking for that opposite.

As for their rep, they are a typical new row house, which has always meant heavier OOS. They have a very good national rep, so the choicest PNMs coming their way have prob always been heavy OOS. Of course in the past, an OOS welcoming house would be looked down upon by the old "Bama only" focused houses and still is by all the old Bama biddie alumna on GR, but we all know thoughts on OOS have changed in a big way. Hhst is hood for them and all NR houses.

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#4  by: nope   
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One more post to bring down girls and then accuse others who try to speak truth of self ranking. There is only a bottom because of silly ranks that need to try to put others up. DZ and Theta do get ranked lower on here but they are in no way lower quality people or anything less than outstanding people. I know DZ had a dip in numbers since I have been on campus but their new house helped (it's gorgeous) and should do it again. Their sisters are genuine, fun, and kind.

Theta is no where near a the bottom like you read here. Their girls are extremely involved on campus and their grades are great. This site tries to destroy them and it does keep them lower than the sum of all their parts would imply (grades, involvement, looks, personality) and that is because of fear.Their looks are just like 12-14 other houses that take real world girls for all they bring to the house, not just their looks. They have the beautiful girls and average girls just like my house but I do think they are more invested in showing all of their sisters and being authentic instead of just featuring 30-40 of their most beautiful sisters on their insta. That shows a lot of respect and I imagine their sisterhood is strong as a result. My freshman suitemate is a theta and I was impressed with her friends. Those that I hung out with were tons of fun and one of my best study partners is a theta. I feel the need to defend them here because I know that what is written is so off base. When I took her with me to things with my sisters there was literally no difference between us except I am an OR legacy and she is from far away.

The machine works hard to push them down and all the girls who buy that machine crap do their bidding. This includes alums and moms. It doesn't carry over to campus but does impact recruitment where there is tent talk. We all know that the machine is corrupt and yet we allow them to control us. There are so many more of us that I think we should pull that power away. Why don't we? Because people worry that we will be the next target like theta. Without theta being made the example of what happens when you don't join there would be many other houses breaking away. The machine KNOWS this. There isn't a chapter on campus that hasn't had side conversations or even full house discussions about the machine and in our house it always turns back to... but theta. If we ALL left the machine theta would instantly move up many places in the ranks and that scares the other houses. And yet theta continues to persist and make us look a little weak for not having their courage to stand by our principles. This gives a lot of motivation for more insecure girls to put them down to justify and make themselves feel better for needing the protection of the machine. Theta stands by their sisters and stands on the right side of this machine crap. I know many girls in my house that respect that about them.

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#5  by: Yea   
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It does suck that the machine and their reps have power in our houses. I do not like have strongly recommended in-house and on campus candidates picked for me and it has lead to quiet, and not so quiet, discussions in my house.

We all know Theta is punished by the machine on Greekrank specifically to keep others from dropping out and some probably have good reasons to be intimidated. But, I do wonder why strong houses, especially the houses that specifically recruit high grades like AXO or XO, have not left.

I do think (hope) dome will leave soon.

Pan love to both Theta and DZ. I really believe all our houses are great and there are no bottom houses.

By: Yea
by: perspectiveAug 7, 2019 9:51:55 AM

Houses haven't left the machine because there is a large part of each house that truly enjoys being in it. They like the perks and the parties and having extra power. They like the potential opportunities it provides. The houses you listed have knowingly elected their reps as president numerous times along with other chapters both old row and new row.

Do I think the machine is detrimental to pretty much every part of sorority life? Of course, but if no one actually wanted to be in it we would leave. That's just not the case though.

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#6  by: PNM that gets it   
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Extra perks and parties! I'm in!

All the sororities are in the machine but Theta. Are they excluded from parties? Do all the frats shun them? Do they have less opportinities to get involved on campus? That sounds terrible. No wonder they are at the bottom.

By: PNM that gets it
by: here we go againAug 7, 2019 11:25:45 AM

This is the machine propaganda pretending to be a pnm once again. Of course Theta is not shunned on campus or excluded from parties or organizations. They have block stadium seating and big parties. They have the same swaps and parties like everyone else. No frat is turning pretty KATs away at the door nor are they asking for their letters. Lots of them partying, dating, and hooking up with plenty of frat guys if that's their thing. If this is a real pnm, check out the organizations and honor societies on campus. It is hard to determine who is in which house because all of our houses are interchangeable and few are mentioning their greek affiliations in their bios. Once you are in those organizations you will realize that Thetas are in them all and holding exec and top positions right beside girls from all the other houses. Do you think so many girls are paying what our houses cost to be excluded, shunned, and shamed on campus? The machine nonsense starts and stops with rumors around here to influence people before they get involved on campus and realize it is all BS. That is how they bully by influence - by keeping away pnm who are naive and scared. Once they realize that there was nothing to any of this it is too late and they are in another house. Which is fine. It is a scare tactic - all bark, no bite to manipulate girls who don't know better. The smart confident girls realize this, especially the OOS whose terrified moms aren't overly involved. Theta gets their girls every year and continues to do their thing. This crap has come around every year I've been here fueled by the machine as soon as this topic of comes up. The machine gets scared that this might be the year they lose the choke hold on the sororitys and they ramp up the rumors. The manipulation works with some girls but Theta proves every year that there are plenty of girls who can think for themselves. If not their house numbers would be at the bottom along with their retention numbers and grades. This just isn't the case. They have great numbers, even with an the oldest, smallest physical house the past few years. They have great grades and solid retention numbers. The fake news just doesn't mesh with the verifiable facts.

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by: SighAug 7, 2019 11:36:22 AM

@PNM that gets it, I’m 100% sure @perspective was referring to the machine parties that only reps and their friends are invited to, not regular swaps and date parties. Of course theta is invited to those.

Also, @here we go again, work on your sarcasm detection skills. It’ll save you a lot of time.

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