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old row v new row?

by: hi

What is the difference between Old Row sororities and New Row sororities ?

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#1  by: Guest   
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Nothing

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#2  by: .   
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Old row is sponsored by Budweiser. New row is not.

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by: —Aug 6, 2019 7:54:27 AM

hasn’t been sponsored by Budweiser for years... your age is showing

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#3  by: sheeez   
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just another post by a new row member to highjack a thread and rip into another OR soro. get over it.

this entire website is nothing but new row members trying to advance their agenda.

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by: QAug 6, 2019 6:08:08 AM

What is their agenda? To get the truth out there.

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#4  by: OR   
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Old Row sororitys and frats are harder to get into. They tend to get the top PNMs. They are much more selective than New Row.

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by: .Aug 6, 2019 6:47:47 AM

That’s truthful

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by: HiAug 6, 2019 7:41:10 PM

Not sure why the downvotes. If you don’t agree that Old Row takes their pick first and the leftovers go New Row then you’re in denial. And you’re also in New Row.

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#5  by: UA   
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It's a worn-out concept that has to be explained to people on here.

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#6  by: Differences    
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Old row are the traditionally most popular sororities from the past before there were so many Panhellenic rules for matching, maximizing, snaps, and quota additions. These things existed in some form but nothing like the process we use now. Old row were rumored to be the most sought after houses when UA was 80% in state and the majority of the rest of girls were Deep South from neighboring states. At that time before internet reputation and how houses were known back home was how you got your information. Legacies, connections, and recs ruled recruitment. This fueled division and competition to affirm that your hometown was just as good and relevant as the next. It was assigning worth through associations to your entire family and by extension your little area of the state. The houses were smaller and the sisterhood was much smaller. A lot of things that people call tradition now are simply throwbacks to a time when information was scarce. Sites like this, hometown chatter, and tent talk continue to perpetuate these old rankings and old row does have higher returns and can get many of their targets. That in no way means that the 1,900+ girls they did not take are not as awesome. Many of the targets are not based on any merit or a girl being above average in any way but on hometown address or how known you are to a house. Old row I still taking smart, beautiful, social girls but so Is new row.

Our world does not look anything like the 1970s or 80s or even the 90s and UA has changed so much. We are now heading towards 70% out of state and technology has changed the game. There are still top instate girls but they are joined by many more top out of state girls. Simple demographics not judgements. Add in all the Panhellenic rules and the houses are ALL filled with top PNM and actives. The idea that many thousands of sisters in the bottom half of houses are less - less beautiful, less motivated, less smart, less kind, less genuine, less desired, less social, less involved- is not just ignorant but proven false. Walk the row and our accomplishments, poise, intelligence, and appearance are indistinguishable. It makes no sense for us to keep perpetuating this throwback. It brings us all down, divides us, takes our power away, and makes us look like backwards hicks that can't recognize the world has changed. We play into the stereotypes of ignorant Alabama every time someone tries to push this tired narrative. The girls in every house right now know this is 1,000% true and it is only those living in the past or are so insecure that some outdated title matters that will deny.

By: Differences
by: HhAug 6, 2019 2:24:23 PM

You go lady. Set the record straight! Take it back to the 59s!

Which one are you hovering over?


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#7  by: Actually   
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Actually Sororities are not Old Row or New Row, only fraternities are Old Row and New Row.

Just some sororities have been invited to participate in an Old Row Fraternity party every year and get referred to as Old Row Sororities.
Sororities actually use to have circle designations based on cul-de-sacs there original houses were located.

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by: HmmmmAug 6, 2019 12:56:24 PM

This may be technically true.

But MOST people consider old row sororities - AXO, XO, KKG, KD, DDD, PM and AGD.

These are not the oldest sororities on campus. There are many twists and turns that brought this list about - including the “Budweiser sponsorship” era that some one mentioned. But is generally considered as old row sororities.

These houses are currently most notable for having traditional strength in recruitment amongst Alabama girls and close by southern states.

This history includes attracting the the girls form the “better” Alabama areas (and those with wealth and good taste/manners) and socializing with the fraternities with the boys from these areas.

This tradition holds in some ways but also has been overturned by the realities of today.

Manners and good taste aren’t what they used to be, wealthy students come to Bama from far and wide, and the boys in the Old Row fraternities have competition and their desirability can be debated.

And while there is a new game in town, these Old row branded houses are still a mark of distinction among some.

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by: HhAug 6, 2019 2:21:47 PM

This

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#8  by: RTR   
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The pretended superiority of "old row", along with the ugliness of "the machine", detract from the beauty of the UA campus, and the atmosphere of southern hospitality that attracts everyone here. I love Bama, but am repelled by the exclusionary, repressive nature of the Greek system.

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by: Trying to understand.Aug 6, 2019 1:50:03 PM

How did the sororities ever become ensnared and entrapped in that extremely negative control cult?

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#9  by: Sad   
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What is sad is that the true leaders of the machine will always be the frats. Stupidly almost all sororitys jumped at the chance to join the Machine when invited and now there is the threat of social ostracism that keeps the sororitys in line and gives the good ol' boys power they do not not deserve.

All sororitys should leave the machine in block!

By: Sad
by: You're right.Aug 6, 2019 5:55:53 PM

You're right. In truth, the sororities collectively have the power. Without influence over them and who they're allowed to associate with, the machine loses its control of the frats.

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