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Theta even top at any school, or even GOOD at any school seems like it universally sucks, but why when it has sooo many celeb alum

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Theta is not very top anywhere, even in the big10 they may be upper-mid, but not the top of the top. They are upper top at Michigan State, and some of the other big10 schools tho.

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by: Kel   

Nebraska - TT
Ohio State - Lower Top/Upper Mid
Purdue - Lower Top/Upper Mid
Michigan State - TT
Penn State - Lower Top/Upper Mid
Illinois - TT
Iowa- Lower Top/Upper Mid
Northwestern - TT
Maryland - TT

And they were TT at Michigan before losing the chapter.

So that's 9 out of 14 schools in the Big 10 where Theta is at least upper mid to top. No chapter at Michigan or Rutgers. Mid to lower mid at Wisconsin, Indiana, and bottom at Minnesota. So really, your statement isn't accurate - at all.

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I have no idea about theta but I know everyone says that phi mu and aoii tend to be stronger in the south, and when u think about it it makes sense because aoii's headquarters are in Tennessee and phi mu's are in Georgia. It's probably way easier to visit those chapters and help them and give them more attention. That probably plays a part, but again have no idea where thetas HQ is.

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Their HQ is in Indy.

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by: Oh   

Oh then yeah no clue lol

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by: Greek   

Both Theta and Alpha Chi were founded at De Pauw University in Greencastle, Indiana. So it makes sense their Hdqtrs. are in Indy. In fact, there are several Greek headquarters in Indy.

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Hell, even for the SEC:

Top:
Kentucky
Mizzou
Georgia
Vandy

Mid:
A&M
Florida

Bottom:
Ole Miss (but now a no chapter)
South Carolina
Auburn (though trending to lower mid)
Alabama
LSU


No chapter:
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Arkansas
Miss St

Like it was said before, it's just the Carolinas, Alabama, and Mississippi. Which the latter 2 states struggle with stepping outside of their traditions anyway. So 4 top, 4 bottom, 4 no chapter, and 2 mid. That is NOT terrible. If there were a chapter at UT, they'd probably be in the upper echelons (based on the nearby schools of Vandy, Georgia, and UK). We know how the Theta chapter at Ole Miss did, though, and I think chapters at Arkansas and Miss St would follow suit.

By: Kel
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In the SEC, Theta has dormant chapters (not counting OM) at Arkansas, South Carolina, and Tennessee. They also have a dormant chapter at UNC Chapel Hill.

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by: %^&   

That makes even more sense. They failed at Arkansas, UT, and South Carolina (so an inactive chapter, not even a bottom tier like the above poster said). And an inactive chapter at Southern Miss. I still think they'd be a better chapter at Tennessee if it recolonized. I wonder how long ago that folded?

They're lower tier at Clemson, but that's not SEC.

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by: :/   

The Theta chapter at Clemson just announced it’s closing next year too.

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Hi I'm an AOII from the midwest and the chapters we have at my school that Bama has are AXO, AOII, APHI, XO, and DZ (and sigma kappa) and I can honestly say that me and my friends in those chapters all agree that Alabama has the strongest chapters for us nationally and we really look up to them (even Alpha Phi regardless of everything). We are always shocked to hear how intense recruitment is for you guys and how many people you guys have in your chapters and we think it's really cool, so regardless of whatever "tier" those houses are they are still strong in the eyes of the rest of us! I don't know any Thetas as we don't have it at my school but I'm sure the same is true for them even though I see them ranked bottom on here!

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by: Interesting   

I always find the differences in Greek life between regions so interesting. I have friends at Michigan State who call alpha phi just "phi" and idk why these small differences are cool to hear lmao

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by: Midwest gorl   

Yeah we call it Phi too and I've also never heard AXO referred to as "alpha chi" like on this page, it's always "A Chi O". Also sigma Kappa = skappa

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by: Omg    

I’m also not from the south and like hearing the different nuances to chapters but I HATE “skappa” and also “Machci.”

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Corrected:

"Hell, even for the SEC:

Top:
Kentucky
Mizzou
Georgia
Vandy

Mid:
A&M
Florida

Bottom:
Auburn (though trending to lower mid)
Alabama
LSU


No chapter:
Ole Miss (inactive now)
Tennessee (inactive)
Arkansas (inactive)
Miss St
South Carolina (inactive)"

So out of active chapters, those still aren't the worst stats.

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It’s good at a lot of Texas schools

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The issue with Theta is that they have had that national intellectual reputation for many years, so they have developed an intellectual base that has pushed them to embrace "good" progressive ideas, but honestly do not really fit with Greek Life. Two come to mind. First, while all sororities are pro-woman, it seems Theta is more vocal/active about being pro-woman (why they refuse to join the Machine and got singled out in that NY Times article). On liberal campuses, this is great, but at conservative ones, not so much. Second, and even more of an issue for Theta, their national has highly embraced and pushed the idea of overall personal value and inclusiveness and their national PNM selection process reflects this. Because the principle foundation of the Greek community is the offer of exclusive memberships, I personally do not think this inclusive model will work well for them.

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by: Except   

Except they are good at some conservative schools too like SMU, TCU, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, Oklahoma— maybe it’s a Texas/Oklahoma thing. They are good at Texas- but it is liberal school. But they are very academic at all these schools too. They definitely promote grades and that may be why they have so many successful celebrities?

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they are the top house at University of Washington!!!!

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they are the top house at University of Washington!!!!

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I know it's impossible to come up with a national "rank" because all the sororities are so different school to school, but just hear me out. This would be how I would rank them nationally based on how well known they are, how much national attention they get, how many active chapters/members they have, where they usually fall in ranks, etc.
I think they're all pretty interchangable/equal within levels so I just listed them alphabetically within tiers.

ADPi, Chi O, DG, KAT, KD, KKG, Pi Phi, ZTA
AXO, AOPi, APhi, DDD, DZ, GPhi, Phi Mu, SK
AGD, AXiD, DPhiE, SSS
AEPhi, ASA, AST, PSS, TPA

I struggled with whether or not to put DDD, Phi Mu and AGD up a tier. It's hard because Phi Mu and AGD are usually hit or miss, and DDD is usually good however they're middle at a lot of places so I put them in the middle. I'm sure some people will disagree with this because they've had different experiences but this is just how I've perceived them. Feel free to switch some things around, again this is just what I personally have noticed!!
And the bottom row does not mean those aren't great organizations with lots to offer their girls, they just don't have as much of a national recognition which is perfectly okay!!

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Stupidest thing ever. There is not such thing as an accurate national ranking. It's really just a reflection of your own personal biases.

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by: --   

personally I'd switch SK with AGD, and bump KD down a tier

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by: mu   

I agree with this mostly, but I'd switch KD and DDD. KD doesn't have much of a presence nationally outside of the South, whereas DDD is usually mid-top across the country and even in Canada.

Also, you forgot SDT! I'd put SDT in the 3rd or 4th tier

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by: Pookie   

I'd also switch KD and DDD. Same reasons.

And NO APhi, you are not yet on par with the historic national rep of Theta, Kappa, Pi Phi, Chi O, DG, Zeta, or Tri D.

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by: w   

Move DDD up one and KD and ADpi down one and you've got it.

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by: Kel   

I've always thought:

Chi O, Kappa, Theta, Pi Phi, DG
DDD, ZTA, ADPi, A Phi, KD
AXO, AOPi, DZ, GPhiB, Phi Mu, AGD
SK, AXD, DPhiE, TPA, SSS
AEPhi, ASA, AST, PSS, SDT

But if we pair it down to just 3 tiers:
Chi O, Kappa, Theta, Pi Phi, DG, DDD, ZTA, A Phi, ADPi
KD, AXO, AOPi, DZ, GPhiB, Phi Mu, AGD, SK, AXD
DPhiE, TPA, SSS, AEPhi, ASA, AST, PSS, SDT

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