bottom tier at big school vs top at small school?
by: Serious QuestionSo obviously it can be pretty to break into even a mid-tier chapter at some of these huge SEC schools. Personally, do ya'll it's better to go ahead and take a bid from a really low chapter at a great school, or is it better to leave the SEC and be near the top somewhere else?
Commentby: YeahApr 11, 2013 11:36:55 AM
meant to say Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss are all among the top 5 in the country.
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by: ehhApr 11, 2013 1:57:41 PM
both Bama and UGA are good schools academically, as are a lot of the other SEC schools like Vandy, Florida a. You shouldn't choose a school just for Greek life, but honestly a lot of people wouldn't enjoy a school with a bad Greek system much.
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by: GeeApr 16, 2013 11:31:32 PM
by: VandyMay 13, 2013 1:34:42 PM
by: ^May 13, 2013 5:02:16 PM
Don't go to either school, but Bama is ranked around 80 and Georgia is around 60. Georgia is somewhat better academically, but they aren't really on a completely different level.
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by: guyApr 11, 2013 6:54:51 PM
all of the Machine fraternities at Bama are strong nationally. A few of the others are too, but really the only lower tier fraternity at Bama that is that good nationally is Sig Ep.
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by: don't knowSep 5, 2020 6:28:07 PM
#4 by: austin
Texas, SMU, Oklahoma, Indiana, USC are just as competitive of a Greek System as Alabama, Ole Miss, Georgia. Ole Miss is a joke because they have huge pledge classes and take alot of girls that can't get into Texas, A&M, SMU, etc. Its easier to pledge at Ole Miss and Alabama than the top sororities at Texas.
by: IndianaApr 15, 2013 10:45:06 AM
Is competitive in a much different way from the others -- instead of using quota and total, each chapter takes only as many new members as there are vacancies in the house. Most houses require members to live in all four years. (The exceptions are ADPi, whose national requires that they allow live-outs, and the two unhoused chapters, Alpha Sigma Alpha and Theta Phi Alpha.)
Add in the fact that Indiana's recruitment numbers are comparable to those in the SEC, and that means many PNMs who would be happy in any house get dropped completely. It's not unusual for a PNM to be released even after pref.
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by: Indiana Apr 15, 2013 11:19:43 AM
has a messed up system. They cut more than half the girls going through rush, and due to their bed quota they can't even cover it by having more sororities. 22 of 26 Panhellenic sororities are giving these numbers.
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by: HAHAApr 22, 2013 10:01:37 PM
WHAT A JOKE. Those schools don't have a better greek system than BAMA and Ole Miss. They have big pledge classes because they only have 9 sororities unlike texas, oklahoma, etc. you look like a complete idiot. Ole Miss and Bama are the hardest rushed based on the amount of girls they cut and the percentage of girls getting their top house
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by: ^Apr 23, 2013 12:17:34 PM
That's Greekrank BS. UT's competitiveness has absolutely nothing to do with girls dropping because they don't get the house they want, that's just something insecure girls made up on GR. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it does some, but 500+ girls simply didn't get a bid period. Can't speak for Bama, but I assume it's similar. That means 20-something% are rushing and only 15% are actually getting in, so basically all the sororities end up being pretty good.
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by: ^Apr 23, 2013 12:21:53 PM
As opposed to schools where pretty much everyone gets a bid. At those schools, the bottom houses really do just end up getting mostly random girls.
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by: HmmmApr 24, 2013 10:22:46 AM
Bama's own Greek Life office says that 85% of PNMs were placed last fall. I've read similar numbers for UT.
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by: Not sureApr 24, 2013 10:35:28 AM
where you heard them, cause those were the official numbers for UT. Number of houses compared to quota indicate slightly less than 1000 girls would end up getting bids, and something like 1500 rushed.
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by: ActuallyApr 11, 2013 10:45:55 PM
a top tier fraternity at a school like UT or OU is, if anything probably bigger and wealthier than a top tier fraternity at most SEC schools and would be more comparable to the SEC school's top tier groups. One of the differences is that the percentage in Greek life at those schools is more like 15% rather than 30+% at schools like Ole Miss or Bama, so there end up only being 4 or so top tier fraternities and a sharper distinction between top and upper-middle tier groups. At Bama the top 10 or so fraternities are all in a relatively similar milieu and even with the old row/new row thing aren't as sharply defined in relative placement. That could also have to do with the fact that some of the Big 12 systems got really hammered by school administrators in the 80s and 90s and lost a lot of their big fraternities which mostly have had failed recolonizations or failed to live up to past glories since returning.
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by: I dunnoApr 18, 2013 1:58:36 PM
For sheer snob appeal, I'd put KD, Kappa, and Tri-Delt at Bama against PKT (Pi Phi, Kappa, and Theta) at Texas any day.
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by: MaybeApr 18, 2013 2:58:46 PM
PKT at Texas probably have more money than any sororities at Bama, but DDD, XO and Zeta are also top tier at UT and probably cooler and more attractive than PKT.
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#9 by: Top tier elsewhere
AGD isnt top tier at Bama but it is where I go to school. I'd rather be top tier at my school than mid tier at Bama. I like it this way, it seems like a lot of the SEC schools are too cutthroat anyway. Plus I get to be a part of the chapter that donates second most to our philanthropy every year. I'd choose that over being middle tier any day.
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by: YeahApr 11, 2013 11:34:55 AM
ACC and Big 12 have some awesome Greek schools too (hell even a few in the PAC 12 and Big 10 are decent just kind of different), and then some random schools like Washington & Lee. Schools like Bama, UGA, and Ole Miss, but the best Greek schools in the Big 12 and ACC can compete with the Greek systems of the next best SEC Greek schools like LSU, USC and Auburn. But yeah lower tier at a lot of SEC schools would be top tier or higher at a lot of D-II schools.
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