fraternity rush: by the numbers
by: Honest
Day before rush officially starts so thought I'd be helpful. In the past about 800+ kids have registered for fraternity rush. In recent years, about 530-540 kids accepted bids to join fraternities. That means about two-thirds of kids are getting/accepting bids, while one-third are not.
You can look at rankings - most people do. Lots of kids go in wanting to join top/upper houses. Maybe about 20-25% of the kids who rush will end up accepting bids at those houses. A lot of those kids are dirty rushed, and these houses are competing for the same kids. You can definitely get a bid from one of these houses by going to smokers, they're just very selective.
Conservatively estimating that the top 20 frats or so frats (top to lower middle) take PCs of 20 kids (some take more, some take less), that means about 400 kids are joining frats from top to lower middle. That's about 50% of the kids that come back for rush. That's lower than a lot of people realize.
There are a lot of great fraternities on campus. Top to lower middle frats consistently have events every week, and only about half of the kids rushing will join one of these houses. Additionally, at least half of the people in greek life are in houses that would be considered middle or lower middle tier. Middle and lower middle frats are very similar in social schedule and brotherhood - they're mostly average guys.
There are also great organizations that are considered lower/bottom tier. These frats have smaller brotherhoods, but they're tight and still have classy events like date nights and formals. There are guys in these frats that are leaders on campus as well.
I know a lot of kids that drop rush, discouraged that they didn't get into the frats they wanted. I would highly recommend keeping an open mind, and really using your time to find a place you fit. You could join a better frat socially, but be miserable because you don't like your brothers. Really take rush week seriously and get a feel for each house - they're all different. Wherever you join, make sure its the right place for you.
Good luck!
#1 by: yeah but
good insights in your last few paragraphs but your numbers kinda are off.
You're right about the 800 rushes, and 540 signing, but the PC sizes and percentages are off.
There's only about 110 spots at the upper frats (6 frats). Approx. 25 at Phi Psi, 20 at Sig Chi and Sig Pi, 15 at AD, Sig Phi, and DU. Most kids are dirty rushed in. If you get cut from an upper house its not the end of the world, its much more competitive then strat rush (180 each year to Core 4, although girls love to complains about how competitive strat rush is). Only 10-15% of guys get into upper frats. Upper mid (Chi Phi, Fiji, and Chi Psi) take about 20 per PC.
Pareto Principle kinda applies to frats (80/20 Rule). Only 170 guys out of 540 are considered to be in above average frats.
Commentby: YupJan 14, 2019 10:51:19 AM
by: JoJan 14, 2019 11:00:48 AM
“Only 170 guys out of 540 are considered to be in above average frats”
Don’t sell frats like lambda, phi sig and ZBT short. I know guys in each and while they each have their problems (sopro, bad rushes, pig roast), many people in Greek life would still consider these “above average”. That being said, the line is still pretty arbitrary.
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by: Lol Jan 14, 2019 11:30:55 AM
Lambda and zbt, absolutely .... phi sig not even close, one of the most average frats on campus. Literally have never been considered above average
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by: QaJan 15, 2019 11:53:20 AM
by: @qaJan 15, 2019 5:57:16 PM
by: HuhhiJan 18, 2019 10:11:42 AM
Lol @ u sticking phi sig in there. I remember freshman year I attended one smoker and one event and got a bid, how competitive. I feel like people wouldn’t hate you if you just accepted you’re solid middle and stopped appearing so desperate by self ranking in almost every thread
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#2 by: also
Freshman spring and sophomore year living in the house are the best part about being in a frat. I know a few kids who dropped rush, then re-rushed in fall after they realized how important socially it is to be in greek life after freshman year. It can be harder to get the full frat experience being in a fall PC
by: TrueJan 14, 2019 10:12:58 AM
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by: ^Jan 15, 2019 9:35:25 PM
But like, how do transfers increase their chances of getting a bid at a top frat (besides being rich, white, and handsome)
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by: i meanJan 18, 2019 6:48:39 AM
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by: opJan 14, 2019 10:04:21 AM
yeah you're right, it's even prob even harder to get into those frats than I said
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