Is ato really mid here?
by: bfkI keep reading about how they’re all over GR but it’s obviously not just them. This website aside how are they actually?
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PKP and ATO have been self ranking and going at it pretty hard lately so I'm not surprised you're confused.
Overall ATO/SX/PDT/KS/PKA/PKP are the next step down from the old row and new row top groups, KA SAE ChiPhi (old row) Fiji and SN.
To a lesser extent you can throw in groups like SigEp/Beta/DSP (each have alcohol bans in house which hurts for on campus stuff) over any of the six I listed above and would probably be right.
KA/SAE/ChiPhi/Fiji/SN = top
SX/ATO/PDT/KS/PKA/PKP/DSP/SigEp/Beta = not "Top" but honestly are just as good as above minus their alumni support and monopolies on certain in state areas (some groups like Beta and SigEp used to be like that, and to a lesser extent ATO does still have that but not as dominant).
Then you have the very respected groups that are more niche but have good events the above row of groups go to sometimes ...
AEPi/OX/TEP/DTD
You'll also see events from these groups often, too soon to call some of these groups niche as they are new (DKE) but are smaller in size for now ...
AGR/SP/DKE/BYX
Outside of these 22 groups it starts to drop off pretty heavily.
Commentby: ORJun 11, 2023 7:58:18 PM
Fiji and SN could be interchangeable with ATO, SX, PDT from most people's perspectives (as in they're just top new row), I'm wondering how you decided that those 2 are the for sure top. I think the vast majority of ppl would say SX over SN at least
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by: bfkJun 6, 2023 2:44:47 PM
Thank you for the detailed answer.
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