thursday is 'cross-cut' day?

Makes me feel batter.

still a thing.

just happens on Thursday instead of Friday.

thanks for playing.

I don't know either

Doesn't exist here because if you maximize your options you'll get a bid.

But for the curious, it was if you ranked 1. Phi Mu 2. AGD, but you were at the bottom of Phi Mu's list but on the first bid list for AGD. The computer tries to match mutual #1 selections, so the idea is that Phi Mu's first bid list and all other girls above the PNM chose Phi Mu #1, thus cutting her from Phi Mu. But then enough girls in AGD's first bid list also chose them #1, so that filled AGD's quota. But now, with guaranteed matching, the PNM would be added to Phi Mu as a quota addition. So no worry. And no one would know that she's a QA. Seriously, like no one. This is all done by computer now.

Thanks for explaining.

>'Doesn't exist here because if you maximize your options you'll >get a bid'

that is the big lie. that's not true for Thursday... that's true for Friday... choose the wrong two on Thursday and you could cross-cut yourself...

maximize your options on Friday and you'll get a bid... however, girls will receive phone calls Friday morning telling them they have been dropped from rush that would NOT have been dropped if they had chosen a different two houses on Thursday...

No, that's not how it works. The ONLY day the pnm's ranking is considered first is Pref Night. That is how cross cutting used to happen in the 1990's and earlier - if the PNM's ranking didn't align with how her Pref houses had placed her on the Bid List, both houses could reach Quota before she marched.

Every single other round, if a chapter invites you back, nothing a PNM can do in ranking can take away that invitation. The parties don't "fill up" because the chapters are inviting an appropriate amount of pnms to the next round based on historical return rates. The only way a PNM ends up with no invitations at all to the next round is if every one of those chapters decides to release her. PNM's ranking really don't matter unless they are invited back to more houses then there are parties in the next round - and then in that case, the PNM's rankings determine her party list.

The OP is someone who probably got cut early in in rush last year and feels bitter while still not understanding the process.

1. The OP is not a PNM nor an active because you don't rank anything on Friday (today) because it's BID DAY. This person has no idea what the schedule is.

2. Thursday night, PNMs pick two during pref night. The ., ?, and GoGreek are right in that if you maximize your options on pref night you are guaranteed a bid and cannot be cut.

3. OP's obviously not a member of our Greek community, but what I think what she is implying is you could get "cross cut" earlier in the week before there are guaranteed bids. To this, I will say that that is very very very rare that you end up at the bottom on ALL of the invite lists for all houses. It's kind of the cold truth that weaker chapters can cut only very few girls each round. Being at the bottom of all of them is almost always a case of bad reputation or extreme rudeness. Or if you're a sophomore with really bad grades. Sometimes it's Blinn Team. It seems like the OP's pretty deranged so I'm guessing she was a QR cut early in the week.

Saturday is bid day.

You are correct. Getting cross cut is relatively rare and generally due to the issues you mentioned. The other time it can happen is to PNMs who seem to be having a perfect recruitment all the way through sisterhood. They get invited back to all the strong recruiting chapters throughout the week and as a result are eliminating the weaker recruiting chapters. By sisterhood, they only have a few very strong recruiting chapters left, and when those chapters all end up cutting her, especially if she's a legacy, then she's left with no backup chapter options because they dropped off through the week.

The scenario you describe literally CANNOT happen. That is not how party invitations are managed for the Philanthropy, Sisterhood, and Pref rounds.

Chapter parties cannot and do not "fill up." If every single PNM who is invited back ranked that house #1, there is room for all of them at the next round's party. I promise.

If a pnm is released from all houses, it means no houses invited her back. It has nothing to do with how she ranked them.

Please stop spreading rumors and making the pnms who were released from recruitment today feel like they made a ranking mistake.

And that's why IFC LOVES this system! It keeps the bottom tier sororities in the game.

On average, 80-100 pnms are completely released (cut) from rush. It doesn't mean that every single chapter cut them, but that many will end up with no invitations to the next round at some point during the week.

A lot of times it's a pnm who is invited back almost everywhere for Philanthropy (thus, allowing her to decline invitations to less competitive chapters) and then either the morning of Sisterhood or Pref, she is released by the competitive chapters which leaves her with no invitations.

Not true. The actual number is much lower. The truth is the vast majority of those who claim they were cut from recruitment actually dropped out because they thought they were too good for the options they had left.

No one goes through rush to join a sorry sorority. Showing up with only invites from houses you don't like IS being cut, effectively.