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by: yearSig Ep is done for a while. They got 3 years suspension of all activities. Last falls pledges haven't been initiated yet so they are going to jump ship and rush somewhere else. Sad to see them fall apart like this.
Commentby: Um
by: get real
by: Idiot
Obviously no girls were hazed. How would that even be possible? What they're saying is that sig ep is in trouble because some girl reported them to the university for hazing. Which I find 100% believable. Probably 2/3rds of situations like that result from a spurned sorority girl making a complaint or a dumb one posting stuff to social media if we're being real about it
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by: shut up
how about you go ask a sigep who gets their house and see what they say/how they react to that question
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by: remax
It's too big -- too many beds -- for other frats, but a sorority might have the membership numbers. Girls would hate the location though.
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by: ^
They'll probably hold onto it. They only have to for two years before they're allowed to resume everything. I just can't see anyone else taking it in that time. It's a massive estate in a college town... no one but a fraternity or sorority would have any interest in it. And it's a multimillion dollar property so no fraternity can really afford it. 90% of the fraternities here can't even afford a middle class residential home much less what Sig Ep has. I guess AOPi could grab it but I doubt they'd want a house that far from sorority row
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by: money
by: ?
They wouldn't have to recolonize would they? They're not being kicked off just temporarily suspended I thought
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by: audi
by: ^
by: Q
by: sororityPOV
You mean the guys from fall16 that didn't get formally initiated yet? Or the potential rushees SigEp would have gotten? I highly doubt they would want to rush again and do pledgeship again - and rushees SigEp would have gotten would probably go to frats like Delt or KA, maybe SAE or Pike
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by: uge
by: Hmm
Idk about that. I think they'll do fine if they rerush. At least the freshman. They werent initiated so other fraternity's nationals won't know about it and I think chapters here will be understanding about it
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by: four
Pretty sure Sigep's Balance Man Program means that biddies are initiated immediately.
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by: nic
If they were initiated, then they are screwed... unless another frat lets them ghost pledge or just unofficially associate.
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by: est
by: ^
There's no way a house that sleeps that many people is only 8k a month...lol. Maybe like triple that
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by: sy
"at least" aka "no less than"
A lot depends on the actually number of bedrooms and then the market for that. Will have to be a sorority or some sort of new religious group with a lot of members and money.
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by: also
Because there is more than one residential building, different groups could share the total rental and then live in different buildings without mixing gender.
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by: senior
by: Odd
A multi-organizational complex? That would be really interesting, though idk if anyone would go for it. And idk who could afford it. I might be pulling this out of my ass but I remember talking to a guy in the chapter about it and I think he said they spent somewhere in the range of $25,000 a month on the Sig Ep house and I don't think we have a single organization here that could afford that. Besides, if they'll be back in two years is it even for sale?
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by: i
by: Dude
by: cz
The school will probably pick up the bill and then sublet it out for the next few years.
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by: Zweiacker
by: Possible
25k a month is a lot but it's not unreasonable for that place, I could believe it. The property isn't exactly pristine but it's massive. If you laid out the bedrooms sorority style the place would easily house 60 people. The parking lot alone is probably worth more than half the fraternities here lol. Not to mention it has 3 houses on it, a "barn" like Beta's, a massive backyard of several acres...it's basically what would happen if you combined the properties of SAE, Delt, and Beta all into one
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by: Yeah
One of my roommates a few years ago was a Sigep and I think he said they spent about 300 grand a year on the house. So if you do the math that's 25 thousand a month. But that probably includes things like insurance, utilities, internet, landscaping, cleaning, maintenance/repairs, upgrades, etc. I doubt the cost of the property itself is more than 18-19 grand a month
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by: accounting
No way that SigEp nationals is going to pay $1+ Million to keep the house empty for next few years.
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by: oyer
Sig Ep Nationals will probably sell it rather than take the loss. Look at the balance sheet -- 300K per year in costs and no rental income locally and no membership dues forwarded to HQ?
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by: Y.b
A big payday for SigEp nationals that they'll spend on more first class airfare and resort trips as well as goob chapters at schools you've never heard of before.
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by: invisible hand
Maybe they want to rent/use it.
What's your problem with capitalism? Why do you hate America?
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by: For real
by: ^This
All the mid tiers are hawking over this because they think Sigep being gone for two years will open up a spot in the top tier. It won't. There's no one who comes close to replacing them. All this means is we've taken another blow to our Greek system. And if one of our oldest and most well respected fraternities can get taken down by some frivolous and unproven hazing allegations, you know the rest of us arent too far from the chopping block. The university is cracking down and they're targeting Greeks. That's what we should be talking about
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by: ?
by: earned
by: fair
The pledges should get credit for time served and become brothers elsewhere ASAP. It's only fair. The pledges did nothing wrong - if this is really all about hazing. They would be the victims.
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by: wait
by: fillon
If they are indeed victims of hazing, then they should receive counseling, support, and sympathy.
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by: Weird
The alarming thing about all of this is that Sig ep got in trouble when it really doesn't haze. Pretty much every major fraternity here is known to haze way harder. Sig ep got in trouble a while back and pretty much did away with any real form of pledgeship. Makes you wonder who's next. A&M is coming down hard
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by: Ha
The fact that you think they changed after getting in trouble is funny. If they had changed they wouldn't be in this position
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by: ptt
If they didn't get in trouble for the accidental death and if they didn't get in trouble for hazing, why did they get kicked off?
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by: Be real
They actually did get rid of most hazing/pledgeship. But what most people think of as hazing is a lot different than what the law thinks of as hazing.
And come on. Let's not pretend like the other frats are innocent. Sig Ep was just the one the university chose to make an example of. Probably because they know it was one of our biggest and best. Hopefully the others will pay attention before they all get kicked off too
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Some Sig Eps that I am friends with told me the same thing.
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