Rushing as a POC SUCKED
by: Trifecta
Luckily I ended up finding a brotherhood that I'm happy to be a part of but rushing absolutely sucked.
I'd get dropped while the weirdest white kids would somehow end up getting bids. It was absolutely crazy how these "higher tier" frats would be able to forgive the fact that a guy was 5'0 with an inability to socialize if he was white but we'd be getting dropped even after socializing well with other brothers and having a good time for no apparent reason.
It seemed like the criteria were completely different for white people and poc. The poc were all competing for the one or two token spots and had to be practically perfect: athletic, good-looking, charismatic, probably in Wharton. While white guys were getting bids in groups.
It was a crazy and stressful experience. Probably one of those moments in my life that I really felt ashamed to be a minority. But I've learned from it and moved on.
#1 by: Hahaha stfu
Sure but what you fail to realize is if you were in those largely white friend groups already and not an outsider, then you’d get a bid... it’s much more about whether you went to St Paul’s/Exeter/Episcopal/etc... you decided to rush into the system and if you thought this is where all the progressive, anti-elitist openmindedness is then honestly you’re the dummy here...
Commentby: TrifectaDec 9, 2020 1:46:31 PM
That's exactly my point though. A white kid can probably get into a "top tier" frat every now and then without an elite pedigree.
But POC would have to be perfect, having gone to St. Pauls/Exeter etc. + be put together in every other way
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#3 by: wow
all im gonna say is being in the Greeks isnt for anyone and for your already privileged ass to complain about the system makes me wonder whether you even knew what you were getting yourself into? you should have just been a geed, you'd be happier and im not trying to be condescending... you clearly are not over it
by: @wowDec 9, 2020 11:41:33 AM
when you say "greeks isn't for anyone", wdym? just genuinely curious what the subtext of your statement is, bc OP addresses the charisma/vibe aspect
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by: wowDec 9, 2020 12:34:33 PM
it's simply not for people who dont want to accept the status quo or for some reason break away from it, Greek life is all about maintaining the white created college traditions and if you aren't white then you either accept that frats and srats dont have to be diverse or just dont rush... you'll see that the minorities in top frats have already accepted the white establishment so it doesn't bother them
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by: @wowDec 9, 2020 1:19:13 PM
uhh phew. lmao that probably should've stayed in the drafts buddy. socratic method unmasking white supremacists again
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by: TrifectaDec 9, 2020 1:50:25 PM
by: quaker Dec 9, 2020 2:03:42 PM
@@wow ... while it’s hard to agree with wow’s point, he is right in regards to Greek life being a white establishment.... a lot of white pnms and members are so unaware of the privilege they have and the facade their poc brothers and sisters put up when it comes to rush issues, it’s really hard to argue that Greek life is multicultural... and the craziest thing is how much white students overestimate the diversity in a frat- they see like 3 people of color and think that is acceptably or even too diverse for a school that is more than 50% PoC.... it really is a white establishment
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by: wowDec 9, 2020 2:32:05 PM
@Trifecta... you're not over not making it into a top frat and you're clearly obsessed with image...
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by: woahDec 9, 2020 7:00:25 PM
by: wowDec 10, 2020 8:50:33 AM
lol im not a white supremacist, i know people of all races and would be incredibly stupid to think that white people are the "best" race.... all im saying is Penn's greek system was built for white people and if you aren't white, particularly WASP, then either diverge and create your own thing like ZBT did or assimilate and accept the lack of diversity bc that's not changing
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by: okay okayDec 10, 2020 2:09:40 PM
@wow what do you mean by "built for white people"? care to clarify? i mean we are all humans with more similarities than difference so if something was designed for one human in mind, it should be easily applicable to all?? ... honestly it just sounds like you are afraid of diversity and have no reason apart from your own childish prejudices
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by: yeahDec 16, 2020 5:39:31 PM
im in greek life in a frat that goes hard in the social scene and i do agree except for the burned to the ground part lol... i just think there are some structural issues with greek life at Penn, its more like Alabama here than Philadelphia...but its not just "White boys" who are at fault, some of my white brothers are huge supporters of diversification, but minority members in frats need to speak up or else it will never be taken seriously... PoC in racially stereotyping brotherhoods are as complicit
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by: yeahDec 16, 2020 5:41:06 PM
the one great thing tho about Penn vs say Princeton or Dartmouth is we live in Philly so greek life or secret clubs are not the only way to have fun
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by: reasonableDec 26, 2020 3:33:58 PM
yeah true, i wonder if you took the same gsws class as me lol?... men of every race have almost no preference for dating (there is always a slight in-race preference but its negligible at the population level), but women tend to have highly skewed in-race preferences w/ white women being the most unequal preference, followed by black women
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by: melaninDec 27, 2020 9:37:48 AM
idk about neglected bc i mean if you are at Penn, you probably have good parents but def most overlooked, underrated and unaccounted for
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by: amenDec 31, 2020 11:58:33 PM
This is the prioritization of caring about people’s issues: White women > PoC women > White men > dogs/cats > ..... > slaves who no longer alive > PoC men > Native Americans .... basically almost last, no one will care my man, it’s sad but true
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by: fair pointDec 9, 2020 12:06:35 PM
Agree with what you said abt the prep school feeder system and abt Penn being elitist and closeminded behind their facade. That being said, does that mean POC can't share their personal experiences with a process that is unjust on the basis of race/racial stereotypes? We'd all be kidding ourselves if we said the rushing process is the exact same for white vs POC PNMs... even the POC who are already 'insiders'
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