Racism in Grk Life isn't a Problem, but Reluctance is
by: reality checkFrom being on the inside, I can say proudly that our frats and srats have maintained a high level of vigilance against racism, especially with PoC upperclassmen within organizations setting the tone. At formals, events or just chilling at bars with the geeds lol (jk love you gdis too), never seen any issues with racism. But the hard truth is, there is a strong reluctance to talk about any of the race-related issues that still do exist. Racism may be mostly gone in Greek life, but we need to address the growing divide between Persons of Color's perceptions of Greek Life (which understandably are not good) and the reality of Greek Life. The perceptions of People of Color have not yet caught up with the tolerant and welcoming reality of our Greek scene AND this is OUR fault. PoC come from all parts of the States and everywhere you go there are uneducated buffoons spewing racism. Why should PoC think any different about the situation at Penn? If you have been conditioned to segregate yourself out of care for your own physical and emotional safety, then why would that suddenly change at a Predominantly White Ivy League. We need to stop being reluctant to have this and similar types of conversation. I am a person of color myself and I think we HAVE to break thru our own inner discomforts when it comes to this topic
#1 by: Hahaha
Racism in greek life is alive and well buddy. Rushing as a POC, I knew I was competing for a token spot in every frat. If you take into account the heavily white high schools that feed into the social circles that propel recruiting to top frats, then it's even worse.
There might not be actual racism within fraternities themselves, but trying to go from the outside-in, racism was pretty blatant (though not surprising).
Commentby: amenOct 20, 2020 11:00:16 AM
btw i came from a waspy prestigious high school, and it didnt really make it any easier bc i was typecasted as an outsider there and then too at Penn freshman year
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by: lmaoOct 21, 2020 8:22:24 PM
#4 by: OP
I'm really sorry if this hurt anyone or came off the wrong way. I do think, me being in a sorority, I didn't really take into account the male experience which is unarguably worse. Rush for Persons of Color is still a highly uninviting process especially in frats and honestly I do take back a lot of what I said while still maintaining the point that we do need to have this conversation.
by: She’s right Oct 21, 2020 9:26:04 PM
For every 1 bad story in sororities there’s like 10 in fraternities, srats have progressed way more... there’s way more PoC in all the sororities combined than there are in all the relevant frats combined by a big multiple
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by: KindaOct 21, 2020 9:37:49 PM
Tridelt is 80-85% white just saying and most sororities are more diverse than that. Top/Mid Frats on the other hand average 95% white. I get what youre saying tho
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by: hahahaOct 21, 2020 9:38:20 PM
yeah dont disagree at all, just think her response was an extremely disingenuous cop out. her point was stupid regardless of whether it was about frats or srats
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by: KindaOct 21, 2020 9:45:02 PM
Maybe she’s just normalized the whole discrimination thing? I feel a few PoC do that in order to kiss up since they have an internalized wanting to be part of the majority, ngl I did it all of freshman year
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#5 by: Thoughts
The standards for rushing if you're a POC are insanely higher. Just look at Fiji where most of the POC are over 6 ft, good-looking/charismatic while many of the white guys are short and kinda creepy.
Imagine if those white guys were a different skin-color, they'd have no chance at rush.
It gets even worse when you go higher in frat "ranks" where the POC have to be from elite pedigrees and check off practically every box to get in while white guys can get in if they don't meet many of those set requirements but are just seen as "chill."
I'm not saying this is always the case by any means, but this is definitely the general trend.
by: yeahOct 22, 2020 11:05:37 AM
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by: amenOct 20, 2020 10:55:55 AM
100% man, rush was mentally taxing bc of all the preferences given to my white "friends"... i do think we as men need to speak about this now, its fcking insane how no one seems to even care about this and then seeing sororities scoff at more diverse frats is disguised racism
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