Brutal Cuts :((((((

Stay positive! You can only bid one, so four is great!

No, the first round was based on grades and connections. So many girls with top grades and great resumes are shocked when they are released so early.

You have to remember that the sororities are each given the absolute limit they can't go over each round. Being cut by a chapter doesn't mean they didn't like you, they just had some other pnm's higher on their list who also ranked that chapter high, so the round filled up before they could squeeze you in. Just keep going and don't take any cuts personally for this reason.

Houses can take as many legacies as they want. The nationals make suggestions on legacy but they don’t decide who the chapter does or does not take. The “nationals” excuse is used to make people feel good. If you are a legacy from out of state and your mama went to sime out of region school your legacy basically doesn’t count here unless you’ve been connected to the local chapter for years.

no one is going to fill their house with all legacies is the point. Nationals got rid of legacies at most sororities as many houses had triple and double legacies so they were trying to create an even playing field for first generation spaces. Legacies need to check the entitlement and be open to new options.

I hope you remember your own words when your daughter is cut from your sorority. Will you check YOUR entitlement? I imagine it hurts to have your own daughter cut from your sisterhood.

Over 30 years ago I chose my own top house where I was wanted for me not my legacy. In fact when legacies mattered at Ole Miss I turned down a double legacy(my mother and grandmother-although from different schools) top house still known for taking legacies and another where my other grandmother had been a member at Ole Miss and chapter President. My maternal grandmother never got over it and my other grandmother had already passed. It was the right choice for me I was not the correct fit for the legacy houses. Last year my goddaughter was cut from her Mother's house and my house before round 2. So she never even went to her legacy house but it so happy in her mid tier house. A good fit. As tiers do not matter but connection to your sisters and fit for the chapter are really important. As for me I have goddaughters and sons so I will never get the experience of my own daughter getting in a house. Although I assure you I have gotten the experience of my goddaughters upset about feeling rejected. Hope Nationals changes this process before I have grandchildren. It is far from perfect. So yes your child will find a house trust the process.

I had all types of calls at all hours from my friends with daughters cut to their legacy houses after the video round. It did hurt them. But it would hurt more for their daughter to get cut right before preference round or get in the house being a bad fit with very few people talking to her. It will work out try to take your emotion our of it so you can help your child.

ole miss does not consider a pmn a legacy unless your fam went to ole miss. other schools that works at but not here

Well, a lot of times the chapter actives DON'T WANT some of the legacies. Some chapters at Ole Miss have way too much interference from alunae dictating their membership selection instead of allowing the actives to choose their sisters. Girls get in that otherwise wouldn't if the alumnae weren't calling the shots. At least eliminating the required legacy courtesies of required first round invitations allow the chapters to choose their own membership instead of having to drop pnm's they like to accomodate legacies they don't. The line about trying to "create an even playing field for first generation spaces" is great and all, but the chapters benefit from not having to waste time and space on legacies that don't fit.

Back in the day, a couple of things would do pnm's dirty.

One would be that pnm's could drop sororities, and sororities only had to drop for the pref round. So sororities would keep pnm's coming all week to their parties round after round because it made their chapter look popular and desired. Pnm's who they always intended to drop before pref were invited only for the sake of boosting the sorority's return rate. Meanwhile, the pnm's were dropping their other houses left and right, eliminating chapters where they were actually wanted and had a real shot at a bid. Then the big drop before pref would come and reality hit; these pnm's who had no idea how their favorite houses really felt about them, and had by now dropped all their other choices, were finally dropped by the houses that were never going to carry them to pref, and boom, they had no choices left and were out of the process. So so so much better now where chapters are forced to make the call early and let pnm's move on to houses where they actually have a shot.

The second awful scenario was when there was no such thing as Quota Additions and pnm's would be 'cross cut'. During bid matching, as soon as a chapter hit Quota, that was it, the chapter was done and no more bids. Some pnm's would be cross cut, meaning her #1 and #2 choices were flipped on the sorority side - her #1 had her ranked low and her #2 had her ranked high, so both chapters never matched with her before hitting Quota. Nothing else to be done because Quota was Quota. She went all the way through and still didn't get a bid, and she would have been happy to get either house and both houses would have been happy to have her. Heartbreaking and so unfair.

These stories are so true about being dropped right before preference and if you were a legacy for several houses really messed your options up as you had gone so many rounds.

Okay I know people are going to laugh at me because yes, I'm a mom and I shouldn't be on here, but I just had to chime in because I know from experience - you want to talk mean girls, under the old system there were sorority women at Ole Miss who LOVED LOVED LOVED having this power over other women and lived to see other women suffer.

Girls would laugh about rushees being dropped right before or just after preference. They knew what was happening and got a thrill out of it.

Some of it was just plain meanness, but sometimes it was a grudge one family had against another or that one group of girls had against a rushee that had simmered for years and trust me, the revenge was served cold via these poor girls. This is why girls would leave Ole Miss if they got released - it wasn't just that they had been dropped, as bad as that was, but they had been humiliated in a very public way (even without social media to spread the word).

Speaking of social media, a lot of these mean girls (from my chapter anyway) are the ones who are always on Facebook now, posting about "positivity" and "family" and "faith" and ordering everybody to be kind to each other. And their daughters can be just as mean as their moms were. It is truly a wonder to behold.

I'll shut up now, y'all have fun and good luck!

Mama knows we must have been in the same chapter. So true the delight in being mean almost made me drop out of being an active. I felt so bad for the recruits back in the day. Best to be cut early and move on to real houses that want you like today.

you will be happier with mid because the ms houses known as top always take legacies and end up with weird pmns because long time ago mom was not like daughter. only Ms filled sororities are only thought as top to legacy Ms moms. currently in a top with weirdos, wish I could redo

Connections and grades help girls get in at Ole Miss. Currently have a Goddaughter going through recruitment at Ole Miss. Last year another Goddaughter went through and got a house at UF(although not mine but she ended up in a solid mid tier and is very happy). On Sunday another Goddaughter pledged at UGA(although not mine but a solid lower top tier and should be happy). UGA had a 10 percent rate and it included women that chose to drop out as they did not like the choices they had left. This happens all the time and some go through spring rush or do not. What I would encourage as long as the was not a grade risk to go with her choices she has left. If she is a grade risk she may want to consider spring rush if fall does not work out and get those grades up. All sororities do the same thing with friendship, rituals, retreats, etc. Higher tiers may have more socials but everyone at Ole Miss is social. Ole Miss is my alum home for undergraduate and has no bad chapters. Guys do not care what sorority someone is in. She will make friends in any house and in her dorm. These days legacy status is not as big a factor as people make it out to be and I think this is to justify why they were not selected. The Cuts are by formula and so houses with more girls that wanted to come back the fall before are given a smaller size they can invite back then houses not as popular. So keep in mind a house may have loved you but just did not have enough invitations to get to your child on the list. She will find her home have faith.

Yes, it is true. The vast majority of that 5% dropped out because they didn't like the choices they had left. While there are always some pnm's that fall through the cracks and are released from all houses, it's a very small number.

Every pnm invited to a chapter's pref is on their bid list somewhere. If she has two pref houses and puts them both down she's getting a bid to one of them. If she only has one pref house then that's her bid. If she has two houses and only puts one on her card, she runs the risk that she may not get that bid and she's done.

Yes, it is true. The vast majority of that 5% dropped out because they didn't like the choices they had left. While there are always some pnm's that fall through the cracks and are released from all houses, it's a very small number.

Every pnm invited to a chapter's pref is on their bid list somewhere. If she has two pref houses and puts them both down she's getting a bid to one of them. If she only has one pref house then that's her bid. If she has two houses and only puts one on her card, she runs the risk that she may not get that bid and she's done.

Hi, good luck to everyone who is rushing today. Wanted to thank everyone within the discuss forum who contributed. Lots of good information. As far as I know our daughter is still in the running. currently its radio silence. (apparently DAD is too intense about this stuff :) ) Fingers crossed & prayers said! Will know tomorrow!

Hotty Toddy...

gator dad let us know how it works out and she will find a great house.