when alums send in "no recs"
by: WonderingCan it keep someone from getting into a sorority? I know of a few girls who went away to schools where people from their high schools didn't go,one reason being they thought their reps (mainly over-the-top mean girl reps) would keep them from getting into sororities. I'm trying to convince someone that this plan might not work out if alums send in "no recs" on her saying she wouldn't be a good sister because of how badly she's treated other girls. She doesn't believe there's such a thing as a "no rec" but I know there is. If you don't have friends in sororities to stand up for you, it seems like a no rec could really hurt, but maybe they only carry weight if it's from an alum sorority members know. I don't really know, but she reads this site and Ole Miss is the top school she's hoping to get into, so at least help me convince her about no recs. She says if they don't want to give you a rec, they just won't do it. That's true, but older family members who are alums have told me they can officially let sororities know they don't recommend someone. Thanks for any answers.
#1 by: Negative
It's not called a no rec, it's called a negative rec, and yes it will get a girl cut after the first round. Negative recs can only be submitted by an alumnae of each chapter. For example: if a phi mu alumnae sends in a negative rec for a girl, the only house that will see it would be phi mu. Personally I think it is mean, the alumnae should allow the girls in the house to form their own opinions of the pnm. If an alumnae has a problem with a girl, she should just kindly refuse to write a recommendation. But that's just my opinion. At ole miss, a girl coming in with no connections trying to start over probably wouldn't have much luck anyway. Connections and a stellar reputation is key to getting a bid here. And, trust me, we have no problem stalking your social media. If he have mutual friends, we will contact those friends. It's not that easy to hide a mean girl reputation.
#2 by: Well
Some groups do call it a no rec. If a chapter wants a girl, they can disregard the rec. Usually the chapter will call the alum for details. Some of these no recs are for petty reasons. The chapter could still go ahead and pledge the girl.
I'm an alum, and yes, I say SEND a no rec. Better that the chapter have SOME kind of warning. They can always toss it out.
#4 by: Wondering
Thank you for the answers! A family member who does a lot of recs told me she's never sent a no (or negative) rec and that it would have to be pretty bad before she did, but said she knows alums who have and it's usually because a girl seriously bullied their daughter or caused A LOT of drama when they were in groups. She also said what Best said, and that some mean girls don't realize that it can come back and bite them.
#6 by: So True
Bullies need to wake up because what goes around comes around. A girl from my hometown tried recruitment in August (SEC) and got dropped early by almost all. Sorority friends there told me it was because of how bad she bullied some girl. What she didn't know is that this girl's brother is in a top fraternity (and an officer) at the school she rushed at. He also works at a popular restaurant/bar where lots of Greeks hang out, so tons of people know him. When he found out this girl was in recruitment, he and some of his fraternity brothers told their sorority friends what all she'd done to the sister. Word gets around, so yeah, it can come back on you.
Also, my mom has never done a no rec but says she is on a girl rushing in January. This girl is bullying the daughter of one of my mom's good friends and it's not just catty things. She's really going out of her way to make this very sweet girl's life miserable. My mom's chapter at this school is top tier, which this girl will probably care about, plus my mom knows some of the members, so it's not like the no rec will come from just an unknown alum. She says she really would hate to see this girl wearing her letters and that she doesn't deserve to because of how awful she is to someone who has only been nice to everyone. Bullies need to change their ways for a lot of reasons, and one is because they don't know who has the back of people they're trying to hurt.
#7 by: WorriedMom
My child's bully is following her to college. We had to move my child from the school because she was terrorized verbally and ultimately physically by the girl. Now the girl from our hometown t is befriending everyone she can in a certain sorority. She bullied my daughter, nearly killed a fellow cheerleader by deliberately dropping her and the list goes on. However, no one from the sorority at this new school REALLY knows her...just the act she is putting on for show. Her recs are from another school and current sister who met her at an event. Is there a polite way of letting an alum know without putting my child in jeapardy ????? She got caught fooling around with a friend's boyfriend and claimed he assaulted her...this is a really bad egg. Help!
#8 by: totally true
#9 by: Current
I'm a current member at another sec school and my chapter allows active members to sponsor or negative sponsor someone & om definitely doing a negative one for a girl who was very mean to multiple people throughout high school. I just think it's helping people dodge a bullet and I know she will find her home in s different house.
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by: I'm OldApr 19, 2017 9:13:16 AM
As an alumna, I would never send a "Do Not Recommend" if I didn't know of the girl personally and could confirm first-hand her bad behavior. There is no polite way of telling an alum about a bad girl without it seeming that you are trying to smear her, unless you know the alum VERY well and she would listen to you without question. I feel you @WorriedMom, but you are now in that place where you have to step back and let some things go. You can't live in fear. Plus, college is not high school and can be the great social equalizer. Mean girls in college will find more condemnation and repercussions than they did in high school, and the sweet girls will get more support and blossom. Support your girl to not let that bully worry her, or shake her confidence, or run her off from what she wants to do! Help her to master the things in her control - presenting herself as a polished, attractive, confident PNM with good recs and good grades and resume. Worry about what's in your power to affect.