out of state girls
by: Real talkConfused why being out of state is a “negative”. Being out of state means you pay more to be there. AKA more likely to be wealthy. AKA more likely to be giving your sorority more money and funding. Confused by your logic
#1by: Honest
Being OOS could correlate with having more money, but it might just as well have to do with not being capable of getting in to your own state school. I don't mean to be snide - just point out that we can infer a lot but that doesn't mean our assumptions are true.
Ole Miss spends SUCH LITTLE MONEY on undergrad education (aside from the honors college) that to me it's questionable why one would choose this school over a strong liberal arts college for a similar cost. The smartest kids here are in the honors college and many of them received scholarships to lure them to OM. love Ole Miss but want to be honest. This is a hard place to be a normal girl. For the most part, unless you grew up close to girls in certain sororities, you will need to be open minded when you go through recruitment. All the houses are strong.
#2by: Honest #2
Agree with what Honest wrote. And this...
Nothing wrong with being OOS - I have many OOS friends. But I think there are two types of OOS students who give OOS a bad name:
1) The type who comes here acting better than Miss. students when the main/only reason they're here is that they couldn't get into their own state school but come from $$$ so they could afford OM. Money is great, but it doesn't make one better than another person and ironically, it's not even the student's money - their parents made it.
2) The OOS girl who was used to getting into the top 'everything' in HS, so they expected to get into top tier...only to learn that connections are everything despite them having a better resume, etc. I've seen this type of OOS student then make fun of Ole Miss, the Greek System, the top tier houses, even the state of Mississippi. They (and their moms) rail about how unfair this is, etc. Well, life's unfair and having a better resume doesn't mean you get in over the person who's well-connected. Same goes for getting a job, by the way.
I get that it was likely shocking to this type of OOS student that things work differently than they thought - but if they really don't like it, then they should either leave OM or stop putting everything/one down. To bash everything about this state is simply rude, not to mention that you knew this was/is a very poor state when you came here even if it shocked you how much connections matter (ironically those same in-state connections would have mattered for you had you gone in-state, OM isn't the only school where connections matter for rush). Remember, your diploma will say "University of Mississippi" not "University of Ole Miss."
So these are two type of students who give OOS students a bad name. There are plenty of OOS students here that are great and I love having them as friends, but like anything, it only takes a few to leave a bad mark and that goes for anything.
#3by: Truth
Not being able to get in your home state flagship in certain states doesn’t mean you aren’t a high stats student. Getting accepted at Texas, UNC, UVa , Georgia, or Florida is extremely difficult.
Also there are no above averages liberal arts schools that cost 38k which is what OM cost OOS.
I am in a sorority and also an HC member. I have met and made so many good friends in and outside of the HC. There are great Mississippi kids here and great OOS kids too. All types in both groups. I knew 2 people here when I got here and it all worked out. I would do it all again in a heartbeat. I love OM and the greek system. It isn’t perfect but it is certainly one of the best in the country.
#4by: OOS
#5by: Honest
I had another thought rereading your question and I think you're interpreting the tough odds of getting into XO, KD, or DDD (I'm guessing here - fill in the blank with your sorority of choice) as a result of being from OOS. I don't actually think recruitment decisions are based on that logic. The more accurate logic is that the members (or adults, who actually make the decisions) KNOW the girls and their mothers from their hometowns/ camp/ school/ etc. I realize that is a slight distinction. I was surprised to learn that the PNMs who are a known quantity are more highly favored because the houses have a definite sense of who they want in their pledge class. For many of these houses, you should know that the actual members do not vote on invitation lists. I don't know if that's helpful, but it should give you a better sense of how some decisions are made and show that if you're not invited back it may have absolutely nothing to do with you or your conversations. It's not so much a reflection on you as one the way recruitment is done. It's a very messed up system. I wish I'd gone in more open minded because I would have enjoyed the process a lot more.
#8by: SUMMARY
Being OOS is not a negative if you understand that down here you are an outsider and that your amazing grades and resume only count for so much. Your social skills and attitude and who you know are really important for sorority membership, no matter what the house, and you have to adapt yourself to this. Even though you think you are worthy of any house you want, you aren't, and you must start from scratch when you get here. There are three sororities here that have a huge local presence, so local girls and their mammas pull on every connection they have to give them an advantage, and I mean for years and years. If you do not have these close and personal chapter connections then you shouldn't count on getting a bid. They call themselves 'top' for the strong local demand. The other sorority chapters here are also very sought after and strong, and no one will look down on you for whatever letters you end up wearing. You will have the same top social life, top sisterhood, top mansion, and all the top opportunities as the so-called 'top three.'
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by: Really tho?
I get what you’re saying, but in a lot of cases, people seek OOS schools for academic reasons. In state schools are more lenient on in state application requirements, in my experience. They are tougher on OOS applicants because they want to make sure they can retain these students that actually want to be there. Going OOS does not mean that they can’t get into their own state schools. It means they have better opportunities elsewhere.