okay, now tell us the truth.

So I'm curious about your particular circumstances and story. For example, southern OOS or no? (Don't say which state) Connections with your fav sororities? GPA? Did you meet girls in HS at spring parties?

How about your friends who all got bottom houses?

To answer your questions (without giving myself away)
I am from a southern OOS. I knew one or two girls in each of the sororities that dropped me, but have many more connections in the sororities that kept me. My GPA is a 3.25 from an exclusive private prep school well known in my hometown. I attended 2 spring parties and stayed with girls I was introduced to by alumni. One of my favorite houses surprised me when they cut me because the alumni who wrote my rec was one of their advisers and had introduced me to their rush team. But, I still have three houses left that I am excited about and a few others that I'm keeping an open mind with.

The girl who is being very vocal about dropping her legacy chapter because they cut her friend is from Jackson. The rest us us are kind of making fun of her. Some are upset, because she is bashing a house we would LOVE to receive a bid from. Can't believe the entitled attitude we see from Jackson and Mississippi girls in general.

The girls with nothing but bottom houses are surprising. Cheerleaders, honors students, pretty girls. All from OOS, but mostly southern states. We are realizing that one or two connections doesn't help much.

I see what you mean by she's complaining about a house that other girls would love to get into, but don't assume all of the girls from Jackson or Mississippi have the entitled attitude. I'm from OOS and I've become friends with a lot of them and live on the same floor with a few, so they all aren't like that. I don't think anyone should be bashing houses at all this week.

I am a senior and went through rush the year Adpi colonized. That year there were only nine houses participating in formal recruitment.

With the exception of Theta, ALL the other houses ALWAYS made quota. The house totals were all within 20 members of each other (with the exception of Theta). Before you jump down my throat, remember that with only being on campus 25 years, Theta is still "relatively" new. Theta, Pi Phi, and AOPi were the only chapters who ever participated in Spring recruitment. Pi Phi & AOPi only to replace the members who dropped.

The new variable quota system will certainly help ADPi. No questions about that! They are already closing in on Pi Phi & Aopi, and this year will be a stellar year for them. APhi will only benefit it they quit playing their "exclusive" game they played last year. They took way too little of a pledge class! This year till tell a lot!

This new variable quota system will hurt Theta. I'm actually scared for those girls. They lack the tradition & leadership of the older chapters & the new excitement of the colonies.

DG, Phi Mu, & Kappa are all considered good, respectable sororities. None have had trouble with their house totals. They might get between 10 and 20 additional quota numbers, but not many more. Their new pledge classes will be amazing.

A bid to any of these three will be fantastic!! Top three houses will become uber exclusive, moving them into a separate "class" all together.

@Not really

Theta has been on campus for almost 38 years. My mom was here in the early to mid 80's and has said they were respected as a new house at that time. A lot of Texas girls pledged them. Not sure happened to cause the change.

"Relatively New"

Chi O - 1899
DDD - 1904
Phi Mu - 1926
DG & KD - 1927
Kappa - 1947

AoPi - 1958
Pi Phi - 1962
Theta - 1979

Adpi - 1961-1995. Recolonized in 2013

The popularity of our sororities has a lot to do with time on campus. The longer on campus, the stronger the traditions & alumni support.

Sorry but how would the new quota rule help ADPi and Alpha Phi, but hurt Theta? That makes zero sense. The new rule will help ALL the sororities with lower numbers improve. For the record, Alpha Phi and ADPi have the lowest numbers. But Theta and AOPi aren't that much higher!

PNMs, consider ALL the houses you're going back to this week! They're all good houses and you'll find your fit. Even on bid day if you get a house you didn't think you wanted, give it a shot. Things happen the way they're supposed to and you'll get a sisterhood and best friends wherever you go if you are open-minded and fair.

Actives, if you're using Greek Rank to tear down other houses then shame on you. It's not fair to PNMs when they see girls being negative about a house that they may love! The new quote rule helps the sororities become better overall! You should want that for your sorority and the rest of the sororities. So STOP being negative about other houses to try to make your house seem better. Just work hard during your rounds and with the girls who come back to your house. That's where the work pays off.

^^^ @another view
The size of the chapters and # of members were relatively even in the 80's. I guess that is "decades ago". Lol
1986
ADPi-98,AOPi-106, DG-146, Kappa-140, PhiMu-140, PiPhi-116, Theta-125, Zeta folded.
1987
ADPi-119, AOPi-110, DG-145, KD-143, Kappa-150, Theta-134, PhiMu-155, PiPhi-133.
1988-ADPi-119, AOPi-110, ChiO-176, DDD-179, DG-150, KD-165, Kappa-157, PhiMu-151, PiPhi-151, Theta-141.
1989
ADPi-119, AOPi-112, ChiO-190, DDD-190, DG-159, KD-179, Kappa-164, PhiMu-153, PiPhi-152, Theta-142.
There was a much more vibrant, thriving environment for all the chapters. The "tiers" weren't that big of a deal and the conversation about "top" and "bottom" houses just didn't exist. Sure wish that was the case today. All of the houses are great houses! Seriously!
Yeah, it was ChiO, TriDelt, and KD. Then DG, PhiMu, Kappa, Theta, and PiPhi were all interchangeable. AOPi and ADPi were great too, just a little smaller. ADPi was in the midst of folding. Zeta had just folded. Fraternities didn't care about tiers. Sweethearts and little sisters were represented from all chapters and everyone helped each other. And recruitment was held before school started...The good ole' days.

I attend Mississippi State but was checking here to see how things were going. The only word for recruitment under variable quota is BRUTAL!! I was lucky during our recruitment but many of my friends were crushed. I can say that they found a home and are happy even though they had a rough experience. Stick it out and see what happens.

If in fact you had sorority actives guarantee you a bid, that would be called dirty rushing, you should report them to Panhellenic.

While it might be true that other sororities cut you because they thought you were going into another sorority, this is unlikely unless you were an in-house legacy. Most houses don't assume anything.

I had several Chi Omegas tell me to back off rushing one of their PNM's because she was one of their in-house legacies & she was for sure going Chi O. I backed off rushing her, but I didn't tell my rush team because I know this is just how Chi O works. They like to "mark" their girls. I didn't pull any strings for her or call in any special favors, but I didn't want to write her off completely. I didn't see her yesterday. I am hopeful to see her today. At this point it's up to our rush team. They are the only ones who know for sure where girls appear on our lists and the only ones who can say for sure why a girl was cut.

Find out if any of your pnm friends have the same houses left as you do and then maybe consider joining the same one together?

Stick it out through preference before dropping. Keep your options open for now.

i was in a lot of pictures with those two certain sororities so that's why people assumed. i went into rush with an open mind and loved so many of the houses and got cut. I've heard of this happening to so many other girls

If you had read earlier posts in this site, you would have known that posing for pictures with actives was a huge Nono!

Your mistake.

And how many of those girls did you retain? Hi we many dropped out before graduation?

If you're unhappy with the bid you get, go to bid day!! Try it out for two weeks. At the end of the two weeks, if you're still unhappy, then drop and go through recruitment again next year. Chances are though, if you really have an open mind during those first two weeks, you'll make a few friends and decide to stick it out. I know several girls who gave it a try when they got the bid they didn't want, and they are all obsessed with their sorority now.

Yes. Sometime in the 80's I think. Their house is now owned by the university (it's between Kappa and DG).

It was in the 80's and it was due to general decline over the years and a bad reputation. The Zeta chapter at MSU struggles even though they are the second oldest chapter on campus. It is odd considering how strong they are at other schools.

Hopefully we can get Zeta to recolonize. With the large number of pnm's coming through rush, another sorority is certainly needed! Maybe they could get their old house back???