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by: Hey

Reading the rules ann bylaws- what Indiana is doing is against the national unanimous panhellic rules stating that you can't exclude someone from rushing based on gpa. How does Indiana get away with requiring a 2.8 and excluding those under?

This should be the bases all the girls appeal with and I hope they see this post.

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#1  by: please stop   
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Please stop trying to stir up trouble. I am involved with recruitment and I can tell you that even if Panhellenic allowed women with any GPA to go through recruitment there would be even more hurt and upset women than there will be on bid day. Each of the national organizations set its minimum GPA for pledging and for initiation. If an organization has a rule that women must have a 2.8 to be initiated, then every women below that 2.8 would have to be let go because they could not be initiated. In my organization, chapters are allowed to set higher GPA minimums than our national requires. We can require a higher GPA, but cannot go below our national minimum.

All you are doing is upsetting those women who were right under 2.8. All campuses have GPA minimums. At many of the Southern campuses, women will be automatically cut under 3.0.

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by: HeyDec 26, 2015 11:11:15 PM

My point is that if the rules say a girl should be able to go through rush regardless of gpa why shouldn't the houses get to decide if they are willing to take the risk?

By excluding from rush based on gpa takes away the house decision.


Why does Indiana get to play by different rules then the National panhellic rules?

Really just want clarification as to - can Indiana set up a minimum gpa in rushing?

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by: TruthDec 27, 2015 6:59:32 AM

"Why does Indiana get to play by different rules then the National panhellic rules?"

Funny you should ask that. IU sororities give a big middle finger to national Panhellenic. It's not just the GPA minimum but refusing to take a total quota.

The GPA minimum is so less women will rush. Why? Because they don't follow national panhel rules on pledge class size to maximize campus participation by dividing the number of women submitting bid cards by the number of sororities. You know the rule that EVERY other campus in the country follows. Because of this, it would be even stickier if more women rushed. Every year they raise the GPA a little bit (.05) with the goal of getting to 3.0 so that less women will rush and they can continue to do what they want with regard to pledge class size. Pledge classes should be in the range of 70-80 (maybe more b/c less would drop in process) with the size and interest of our campus. This is the first year that even 50 is required. Do you see how crazy this is? Best yet is a select few of these women with bad GPAs will still be given bids by "top" chapters after recruitment even though they could not participate due to GPA because they are "hot", rich or well-connected. WITH INLY 50 spots, you'd better believe many of those spots are already spoken for before recruitment even begins. It's messed up.

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by: EhDec 27, 2015 7:02:54 AM

Most southern campuses rush in the fall, so that's not true that they cut at 3.0. Although high school grades are looked at - at least that's a fair judgment because it's 4 years, not just one semester where some women are taking easy classes and others are taking biochemistry. Not a fair judgement.

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by: HasDec 27, 2015 8:45:01 AM

Has anyone gone up against the rules? Taken legal action to make Indiana comply with national panhellic rules?

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by: HasDec 27, 2015 8:45:01 AM

Has anyone gone up against the rules? Taken legal action to make Indiana comply with national panhellic rules?

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#2  by: But why   
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But why would you even want to spend the time rushing if every house has gpa requirements at or above a 2.8 so therefore would cut you anyway? IU is doing you a favor by not allowing you to put your time and heart into a rush that will end badly.

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#3  by: .   
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At most schools Rush is in the fall so it would be unfair to set a gpa minimum since every high school is different. IU uses fall semester gpa which is a fair comparison. Also, National Panhel will not side with you on this because IU already makes them look bad to have such a low % of pnms get bids and letting in the lower gpa girls will make that number worse. These girls would be wasting their time coming back from break a week early since every chapter here has a gpa minimum that is at least 2.8 so they would automatically get cut anyways.

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by: ButDec 27, 2015 11:39:43 AM

Fall rushing campuses do have minimum gpa requirements and those chapters have higher gpa requirements than the minimum set by campus. Studies have been done that show how students with a HS gpa of "x" will perform in college. And how first semester college students with low gpas will perform. It isn't an arbitrary number pulled out of the air, there is research behing it. The purpose of college, first and foremost, is to educate the student so he/she is employable. The extracurricular stuff is just icing on the cake, and is best reserved for students that can handle the extra commitments and still make grades.

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#4  by: Why are you in college?   
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If you have below a 3.0, year last thing you need is to join the Greek system. You need to be in the library and with tutors to have a much different semester and bring your GPA up. Employers don't care that you were in a sorority. They will care if your resume reflects a GPA below a 3.0.

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#5  by: honestly   
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please stop with the "our bed quota system is not fair", "our GPA requirement is not fair". When did you all start believing that life is always fair? Sorry to sound harsh, but wow we don't all get participation medals. Ask any women who has ever gone through rush in the history of ever. . .they will tell you that some people get in where they want, others don't and fair or not we can't all be in the same house simply because we always get what we want.

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by: @honestlyDec 27, 2015 6:10:23 PM

It's not fair , so I'm not going to shut up. No one is talking about all joking a top tier or same house - only having equal opportunity which we don't have at IU bc of bed rush and Gpa requirements exclusive to IU

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by: HonestlyDec 28, 2015 4:37:54 AM

And that is my point. Lif e is not always fair. Move on. Whining about it not being fair makes you sound a bit self centered. GPA requirements are NOT exclusive to IU.

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#6  by: So   
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You would be willing to pay the enrollment fee, go to the expense of outfits for rush, go thru the excitement and stress of recruitment only to be dropped due to your low grades? Because that is what will happen, no matter how awesome you think you are. Your low GPA is too low for every chapters minimum requirement. YOU WOULD NOT GET A BID.

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#7  by: Sorry   
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You seem really upset about not being able to rush, and I get that, but sophomores with good GPAs can get bids, so just try to accept where you are and look at the next year as one of opportunity. You have time to get your grades up and your GPA is high enough now that you could raise it enough to go into rush next year in a much stronger position. You also have a year to meet more sorority members and make more connections. If you have friends who pledge in 2016, all the better for you as far as connections go. So it sucks it isn't going to happen this time, but make the best of the year you've got ahead of you and things could really turn out great in the long run.

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#8  by: P.O'ed pnm   
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ok this honestly is like half offending me as a pnm, because i ended with a 3.6 that i worked VERY hard for to rush. The fact that people are trying to take spots from people who worked their asses off and deserve it proves that they shouldn't be ready to rush anyways.

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by: ^^ clap clapDec 28, 2015 4:38:13 PM

The above post for the win....

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by: PnmDec 28, 2015 4:53:00 PM

Yea but taking really tough classes , working hard and falling a .02 short. They should be able to go through rush and let the houses decide if they are willing to accept a 2.78 gpa.

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by: mhmDec 28, 2015 8:21:17 PM

yup because the classes YOU and only YOU took were exponentially harder than the other 2000 girls who applied to rush!

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#9  by: @pnm (above)   
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How many times does this need to be said. . .when you say " let the chapters decide". . . They HAVE decided NOT to take anyone with a GPA below their cutoff.

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#10  by: @pnm (above)   
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How many times does this need to be said. . .when you say " let the chapters decide". . . They HAVE decided NOT to take anyone with a GPA below their cutoff.

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