if you had a little brother, which house?

Every big national fraternity has business connections, and seeing as how SAE is not the good at Indiana, there are many better choices. I'm thinking you're some nerd from SAE with about half a clue on national Greek life who has been trolling this post as a rush tool.

that's all well and good if you live in the Midwest. Fact is, all these chapters are among the largest and most prominent nationally. No one is arguing that Pi Kapp, Fiji or Phi Psi is better than SAE and SX nationally, but all three are strong national fraternities with over 100 chapters and a network in excess of 100,000 members. To say that they don't offer substantial opportunities just because they aren't the very largest fraternities in the US is absurd. There are a few bigger options, but there are a hell of a lot more smaller ones.

Dude- couldn't agree with you more. Those 3 are all good, very respectable fraternites that are good here and have solid alumni bases. In my internship, there was a respect by those of us and alums of fraternities. Definitely gives you something to chat about and build a connection. I was just pointing out as u have that those sae and sx alum bases are incredibly vast and strong, definitely not dissing anyone else.

nice to know that some people aren't so black and white about it iuking. There seem to be a lot of people putting out this whole if you're not first you're last vibe. SAE and SX are the top national fraternities, but it obviously doesn't mean everything else sucks.

Sae is top tier at every big 10 school that they have a chapter except here and purdue. Before being suspended we were easily top tier at michigan, iowa and msu and will be when they come back. We are clear number 1 at northwestern, top tier at u of illinois, u of wosconsin, penn state, minnesota. We are decent at ohio state. Top tier at miami of ohio, northern illinois, depaul, indiana state, iupui, new at eiu, wiu and ill state and are already top tier there. Clear number one at loyola, brand new at missouri this semester, suspended at iowa state but top tier when there and at northern iowa. These r facts, not opnion. Do I need to go on? Soun ds like trailing comment from a fiji or pi kapp. The only 2 schools u r better than sae for the moment is here and purdue, nowhere else. Not even one other school. There isn't a region in the country where sae is not in the upper top tier. You can say sae isn't the greatest here after being on and off campus the last 10 years and be right but to say they are mediocore in the midwest is just an outright lie

The big fraternities in the midwest are sig chi, sig eps, sae, pikes, betas and phi delts

Just when I thought I was out, you pull me back in. This is getting so stupid. If that was an sae trailing post then you are playing right into their hand by commenting. This site doesn't matter to anyone who is not already in a house here and very little to those who are. What's next? Arguing that my family has more money than yours?

I'm no fan of all of this rank crap but even I will say you are wrong. Sae is one of the strongest in the midwest. Not saying they are stronger than everyone else but definitely very strong in midwest. A lot of other houses are too. a poster before listed sig chi, sig eps, sae, betas, phi delts and all of those are very strong in the big 10, big 12, the smaller midwestern conferences.

Fiji is better than sae at ball state too so midwest u r wrong about fiji not being better than them at any other school. However, bama u are way off base saying sae is not strong in the midwest, they are definitely one of a handful of top houses. They aren't that good at ohio state either but neither is fiji or sigma chi. But what do you expect on a campus where tke is top tier? Besides the midwest schools midwest stated, I know sae is top tier at u of dayton, u of cinncinnati and central michigan too bc I've been to those schools and have good friends there. Bama stick to your argument that fiji and pi kapp is better than sae here bc they are. You are also very incorrect about alumni base. Sae is huge in chicagoland area where a lot of us will try and find jobs after graduation but anyone who says other fraternities alum bases there aren't also strong too is dead wrong.