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300+ girls dropped. extension in the future?

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I know some folks will have negative comments about this. I would love to see a more robust acceptance of more women in Greek life here. The "elite status" sorority history is ridiculous and does not reflect what this great university is about.

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Just a jealous poster who doesn't belong to any "elite" anything! Sorry you didn't fit in anywhere and didn't get a bid! You need a find a place to belong and be happy! We certainly are!

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by: @LOL!!   

Every campus has tiers. Most campuses aren't so wrapped up in "elite" status that 300+ women drop if they can't get an elite house.

Your attitude is the problem with the Texas Panhellenic community.

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by: Ha   

Lol, you are a nasty person. Why don't you try yoga or meditation?

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In fall 1969, 2,390 girls went through sorority rush, marking the peak year for sorority enrollment. However campus unrest, anti-establishment and anti-tradition feelings became apparent on campuses throughout the country during the early 1970s. Anti-Greek sentiment flooded the UT campus and sorority enrollment dropped to 826 in 1971.
After the nosedive of 1971, sorority rush enrollment reached another high of 1020 in 1974 then dropping slowly until 1978 when 1032 women were enrolled.

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In fall 1969 there were 33 fraternities on campus with an enrollment of 3020 members where as in fall 1978 there were 24 fraternities and enrollment of 2800 numbers.

While many fraternities folded that decade those that remained grew large and unwieldly and mirrored the unhealthy environment of sorority membership in so far as ranking, elitism, and socializing with only certain sororities further weakening the overall Greek system. Just refer back to the sorority closings listed in this thread.

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by: Closings   

Alpha Xi Delta 1929-1943/1963 reopened
Then within two years:
Phi Mu 1913-1965

Then the 70s: AGD AOPi and DZ in fairly short order:
Alpha Gamma Delta 1940-1972/1985-1996
Alpha Omicron Pi 1941-1973
Delta Zeta 1924-1977

Then the 80s and 90s:
Kappa Delta 1921-1934/1981 reopened
Alpha Gamma Delta 1940-1972/1985-1996
Gamma Phi Beta 1922-1988
Delta Phi Epsilon 1934-1990


No one on or off since 1996.
And the old quota methods didn't take any more victims in the early aughts although some came close to folding

But they didn't, all 14 still here.
SDT without a house or resources unfortunately may not survive this climate. \n\n\n\n\n

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by: more history   

The Panhellenic Council and sororities went off campus in May 1968 they became separate from the University of Texas and no longer subject to its rules and regulations. the IFC however remained campus affiliated

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The Alcalde. January 1988. Page 14.

Panhellenic sororities to begin Open Rush.

Read the whole article for fuller context.


So before 1988 you didn't even go to every chapter on campus. You received an invite or you didn't even set foot inside the house?

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The Panhellenic Council took a first step toward changing that image in December by voting to add two days of open house during rush week.
The vote wasn't unanimous but it did pass by a 2/3 vote of the 17 sororities.

You can read the whole article if you google it.


This was back when UPC wasn't a campus organization. Sororities not recognized by university. Wild Wild West if you will.

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by: Pi Phi Dance Party   

So this explains dance party!!
They are just coping with the fact they didn't want every rusher to set foot in their house? Did dance party start in 1989? Did Pi Phi vote in the 1/3 against Open House?

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by: Ok   

So this is why alums from before the 90s just aren't up to date.
Crazy quota setting and no Open House.
Surprised so many chapters are still here....,,,

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by: So   

How was quota set with closed rush? I'm really curious about how that was done in 1969 -- that's almost as many PNMs as Bama had come through this time.

Incidentally, Arkansas used to do bed rush just like Indiana -- there were only as many spots as there were vacancies in the houses.

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by: So the 1/3 against?   

So 1/3 of the 17 groups?
That would be 6 right....
Wonder which 6 voted against an open house where everyone would start on equal footing?
This began an era of vicious tent talk, an over the top elaborate rush week, dirty rushing etc.
Also same year GPhiB left... Coincidence?

And dear Prudence wrote her Big 6 defining article "Sisterhood is Powerful" in the September 1976 edition of Texas Monthly.
At the time there were ~20 sororities on campus. But not everyone got invited as there was no Open House round....

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by: Satire   

I do believe the author has stated that she intended the BIG6 article to be read as satire. If you read the Texas Monthly article which is online you have to see her original intent was to poke fun. But as with satirical articles today from the likes of the Onion there were some that grabbed it and ran with it. Bless their hearts.

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[So before 1988 you didn't even go to every chapter on campus. You received an invite or you didn't even set foot inside the house?]

Yes. I knew almost nothing about rush. I signed up because it sounded like a nice opportunity. I received 3 invites. Went to 3 houses the whole time. Ended up pref 1 (suicided) and found my home. We had 50 in my pledge class (which was quote during the mid 70's) Loved it ever since!

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by: Old UT   

Before RFM, quota was figured out basically the same way; number of PNMs left at preference divided by the the number of chapters. Obviously there's more to that and a complex algorithm but that's the simplified version. The big difference was in the number of invites a sorority could extend. It was basically the wild west with no limits. So the most desirable chapters would keep inviting tons of PNMs back who they never had any intention of pledging just so they would have huge parties and could brag about the size of their parties and their return rates. Meanwhile all those PNMs were earnestly continuing to go to those parties and believed they still had a chance while regretting chapters where they actually did have a chance. So once preference rolled around, the PNM would either receive no invites or receive invites to parties where she wasn't ever going to get a bid. The end effect was many unplaced PNMs because there was no maximizing options or guaranteed placement if you stuck through the process. It's also how the weaker chapters got smaller and smaller every year. You think recruitment is brutal now? This is what your mothers and grandmothers were up against.

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by: @Satire   

The closest comparison to "Sisterhood Is Powerful" is "The Official Preppy Handbook." Written by somebody poking fun at something they know well, but then people start taking it as gospel.

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by: @Old UT   

I read (yeah, at GC) that for years quota was 50 during the old system, regardless of how many PNMs came through.

(Ohio State had a similar setup mandated by the university until recently -- total was always 100 and quota was always 25.)

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by: Old UT   

That's not quite right. While it may have happened that way for a few years, quota was figured by dividing the PNMs by the sororities, but it happened earlier than preference. So the stronger sororities got more because they had their choice of all the PNMs they'd kept stringing along and the weaker ones didn't have any chance of making it because it was artificially high and the PNMs who still had the stronger chapters had dropped them earlier. I hope that makes sense.

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RFM (Release Figure Methodology) wasn't implemented until the mid 2000s (I think it's pilot year on some campuses was like 2004) and RFM has strengthened those middle and lower chapters because it forced girls to have realistic expectations about the kind of houses they fit with and made them take another look at chapters they might have automatically written off in the 80s.

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Yasss it has changed the recruitment landscape At Texas and across the country Came from some big NPC brains!

With all the changes to the structure of recruitment in the last century Am interested to see what's next!

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by: College Prep   

RFM came from an Alpha Phi at MIT-- not NPC brains.

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by: saying   

APhi is a member of NPC. MIT women have brains.

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Dropped out because they couldn't get into big six. It is ridicules to think those girls would be willing to join brand new chapters either. The mentality is sick. The chapters not in big six are great too. THAT is our problem. We keep tearing them down. Girls thinking they can't form sisterhood bonds with ANYONE not "in the big six" is just awful and bratty. We need to realize that there are great girls in ALL chapters and ALL have something to offer! When did we all become such bratty snobs? I am in big six, but it was more luck than anything else. I truly would have been happy in about ten chapters here. We need to improve our attitudes about chapters we have not get more!

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by: Old UT   

While this is correct, truthfully at schools where a caste system is so deeply entrenched, there is virtually no way the less popular chapters can ever gain a stronger foothold unless something changes dramatically. I think SDT is probably at that tipping point and either needs to either 1) get a house again and rebrand themselves or 2) Continue as an unhoused smaller alternative and discontinue participating in formal recruitment or 3) Close, regroup and figure out how to come back with a house and renewed focus at some point in the future.

Sometimes it is most productive to bring a new sorority onto campus in these situations. Its easier for a lot of women to accept a bid to a chapter with "no reputation because they're new" versus one with a stigma that can never be overcome on a campus with a seemingly unbreakable caste system.

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I agree that having some kind of house would be a huge help for SDT. As mentioned before, the Bama chapter is very similar, but they managed to secure a small university-owned house near the Jefferson Avenue (New Row) fraternities three or four years ago. It's very modest (more like a small apartment building), but it does provide a living space and a home base for the chapter. I think it's helped them build their numbers too -- back before they got the house, their numbers dwindled down to 7 or 8 members. Now they have close to 70.

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Also There Was A Panhellenic Advisor For All Those Years The Sororities Were Unrecognized
She Was Both The Glue That Kept It All Going And The Weight That Held It Back
I Am Sure She Had Amazing Stories
Shoulda Wrote A Memoir

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Interesting was to describe her... The Glue That Kept It All Going. The Weight That Held It Back.

She did no favors for us back then as she had her favorites.

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by: Ph adviser   

Was she hired when the Panhellenic Council and sororities went off campus in May 1968? Or was she around long before that?

Did she leave after the sororities and UPC went back on campus and adopted Open House??

And just curious, did she have an affiliation?

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ARTICLE XIII. EXTENSION
A. When all NPC chapters at the University of Texas at Austin are close to or over Total, the Panhellenic Council shall consider raising Total or adding another chapter through the National Panhellenic Conference extension process.
B. Such a chapter shall be organized through colonization by an NPC fraternity or through organization of a local sorority which may petition an NPC fraternity for a chapter.
C. Consideration should be given to NPC fraternities that have previously had chapters on the campus and to those NPC fraternities which have filed letters expressing an interest in the campus.

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Is there motivation for Panhellenic reps of each chapter to get together to change the culture or is it status quo?

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I actually wanted to start Phi Mu at Texas when I first transferred but I was told UT didn't not want to expand and let another sorority colonize.

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Interesting history of UT Panhellenic sororities. Seems pretty accurate

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