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I am definitely planning on rushing both next year, but I am curious as to what are y'alls opinions on both of these chapters.

Posted By: Rushee
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You'll need connections to get in those chapters, or at least go to a lot of summer stuff. The SAE's I know are generally pretty cool guys though, can't say much on Sig Ep, don't know any very well, but I mean they're both top houses.

By: Guy
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Both top teir. SigEp is better academically if that helps.

By: TXA
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Can't go wrong with either but rush both and get a feel for who you wanna hang out with for the next four years

By: Dood
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The history and tradition of the Fijis. Have a nice historic mansion and they're currently building a multimillion $ addition in the back. They'll be keeping their #1 position for the foreseeable future. SAE is a close #2. Sig ep is a newcomer,or "new row" as some sec schools call it. They achieved status only within the past decade or so, and priearly benefited from the misfortunes of older top tier chapters who got kicked off campus and never fully recovered (aka phi delt, kappa sig, ato).

By: you cant beat
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ATO and Phi Delt haven't fully come back, but Kappa Sig is unarguably top tier and pretty close to Sig Ep these days.

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I'm Greek at UT but not in anything mentioned in this thread. SAE and sigep both rushed me and they were both enjoyable. SAE is very big on connections, it's tough to come into SAE without knowing anyone unless you can be in Austin a lot during the summer. Although this makes them seem exclusive, they were very respectable Guys and a couple of them still did a little keeping up with my even though I didn't go SAE.

Sig ep is not as exclusive as SAE but they all enjoy a party. They're definitely fun to rush with. A lot of my friends went sig ep and they are all some guys that i enjoy being around. Both have very nice houses. Be yourself, and enjoy your time. Even if you don't like the fraternity and decide to do another, it's the last time you'll ever have free partying at UT. Be gracious, but don't kiss ass

By: Ut student
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Better have a lot of seersucker in your wardrobe if you plan to pledge Sig Ep

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If the Big Three were movies...

Fiji: Animal House (Movie not stereotype): Good clean fun. Slightly dated, but with a classic feel that appeals to everyone.

SAE: Rushmore: Highbrow and not that fun at first sight, but a with a very dedicated cult following amongst the upper middle class.

Sig Ep: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: Almost unbearably crazy the first time, but on the second time around, its apparent that there's a deep intelligence in the madness.

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that was a pretty awesome analogy. I didn't know you could split it up into a big 3 though, I thought it was kind of 2 (Fiji, SAE) or 4 (+Sig Ep and Kappa Sig).

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When I think of Sig Ep I think of new money. When I think of Kappa Sig I think of old money. Which is better?

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I'm not Big 4 either, but that's a great way to describe it. Sig Ep is kind of "new money" while Kappa Sig is the more young life version of Fiji and SAE (i.e. cleaner old money kids from the same places as those two).

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by: Well   

I'm in a sorority and I hope you guys know that some of the real "catches" at this school are in some of the fraternities other than those four. Sure they're great, but so are the others!

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Yeah, it's just a Greekrank thing, there are a lot of great fraternities at UT.

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Kappa Sig is hardly "old money," or pledges anyone that got bids to the big three. I think that all of you are forgetting that they only became relevant a year ago when KA (now Omicron) collapsed. According to their website, in 2009, the Squids had less than one hundred people in it. Also, I don't know of a single Kappa Sig that went to old line schools in state (HP, St. Marks, Dallas Jesuit, ESD, Kinkaid, Alamo Heights, St. Johns, St. Mary's Hall, EHS, Lamar) or out of state. Those are the places where the vast majority of Fiji, Sig Ep, and SAE chapter's are from.

Kappa Sig has kids from Plano for God's sake.

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to show that whoever you are, you know nothing about the history of fraternities at UT. Back in the day Kappa Sigs ruled. Hell Sig Ep came on thirty years later and probably washed KS's dishes. Kappa Sig had some down years and has come back recently in a rapid and forceful manner. Do your homework dude. You're clearly a johnny-come-lately sigep, which is fine, but you need to get your facts straight.

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I'm not in any of these houses but Kappa Sig has probably been a top tier house on campus for more total time than anyone but Fiji. SAE wasn't even really top tier when ATO got kicked off in the 80s and KA was never big four until Kappa Sig and Phi Delt were gone.

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Kappa Sig is also the only old school top tier house who've gotten kicked off and successfully reestablished themselves as top tier.

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Find a kid that didn't go to one of those schools. Yes they have a few Southlake, Plano West kids. But 90% of them went to private or "public private" schools in Texas. The other 10% are from small towns collecting there monthly oil royalty from their ranches. Yes they have a few questionable guy, but you can't question their money. I'd put their families up against fiji or sae any day of the week.

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I'd say that Sig Ep is an old money house now. Fifteen years ago they weren't but that's changed. I mean a former White House Press Secretary and two sitting members of the Board of Regents were Texas SigEps.

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by: Ha   

I don't think I'd be bragging about having Scott McClellan as an alum. Didn't he sell out one of our finer presidents? Son of Carole Keeten Rylander McClellan, no thanks. Most Republicans don't claim him.

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no Liberal but calling Bush one of our finer Presidents is a stretch.

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You're right. What was I thinking. Oh well, McClellan is still a douche.

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SigEp may be many things, but "old money" isn't one of them.

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Fiji wasn't that good either. My dad (Kinkaid '81) (Phi Delt '85) said they used to be almost all from small town east Texas. Sig Ep and Fiji were about were Pike is today, respectable, but by no means top tier, and Kappa Sig, who'd been kicked off in the early 70's was struggling. Sigma Nu got their house, and the Kappa Sigs didn't get it back until Sigma Nu got kicked off in the fall of '91. (Its taken them thirtyish years to recover.) Apparently in the 80's it was pure ATO (West Texas Oil), Phi Delt (Houston Schools) and Beta (Hill Country Ranchers). SAE was "technically" one of the best also, but nobody liked them but the Pi Phis because they were entirely HP/Jesuit/St. Marks kids and total snobs that looked down on everybody else.

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has pretty much always been top tier. Kappa Sig came back post-2000 I'm pretty sure. I've talked to other UT grads who were there in the 80s and they've all said Beta was upper-middle tier, and Fiji, Phi Delt, ATO were top tier for sure.

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A couple of people who were here in the 80s also posted on here and said that's how it was.

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Some things right, but not all. The current kappa sighouse was sigma nu's original house and propertythey built it from scratch and was renowned for having a swimming pool in the back. It was never owned by kappa sig. google sigma nu's Rho chapter at Missouri. Yes, their house was based off oftheir rho chapter. To say fiji wasn't that good is a joke. Phi delt used to be #1 or #2 with fiji but that was a long time ago. Sae only started getting into the "top tier" in the 80s after ato and kappa sig slipped up. Beta (not really top tier) and phi delt both went into decline in the late 80s as did ato (kicked for hazing) and kappa sig.

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