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by: Freshman

Is Sigma Alpha Epsilon or Sigma Phi Epsilon referred to when mentioning Sig Ep (I.E which one is the top tier)?

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#1  by: J   
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Sigma Alpha Epsilon is considered SAE while Sigma Phi Epison is SigEp

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#2  by: 1901   
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When SigEp's award-winning Balanced Man Program is run right, it is a more challenging experience than pledging. While brothers have the right to membership the day they join, it comes with many responsibilities. Brothers must be engaged their entire time in the chapter, not just the first semester. If brothers do not meet their expectations in each challenge, their membership is lapsed, which can lead to expulsion. Furthermore, the Balanced Man Program challenges brothers to provide the best experience on campus.

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by: UghSep 12, 2016 11:27:28 PM

Are all SigEps at UT such pansies?

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by: TSep 19, 2016 8:26:37 PM

Not balanced here

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by: oSep 27, 2016 8:47:55 AM

They're off-balance

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#3  by: 96   
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SAE has pledging, Sig Ep does not.

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by: rSep 1, 2016 2:29:45 PM

Roasted

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#4  by: 2017   
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Will likely have a nanny from nationals living in the house from January 1st to monitor everything and get the chapter in line with Balanced Man Program and substance-free facility requirements.

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by: stopthemadnessSep 5, 2016 3:59:48 PM

Not converting to Balanced Man, not becoming a dry house, not getting a national staff babysitter.

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by: cSep 5, 2016 5:08:37 PM

Can't deny 2 of those.

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by: 65Sep 8, 2016 1:28:26 PM

Either they are lying to their new members or they don't understand the gravity of the crisis.

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#5  by: no   
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SAE values don't align with UT's image.

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#6  by: Ugh   
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Didn't SAE eliminate pledging because more SAE pledges died pledging than in any other fraternity?

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by: noSep 13, 2016 8:49:03 PM

False.

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#7  by: future   
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SigEp is going "dry"

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#8  by: .   
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UT SigEp thinks they're too big and too good to play by the new national rules. Probably thinking they'll just pull a KA and have their alumni float them when they inevitably feel the weight of nationals crash down on them. Newsflash: no chapter is too big/wealthy/important for a national organization to take on so much risk.

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by: mannySep 18, 2016 2:00:23 PM

What risk? There is no risk.

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by: UtSep 18, 2016 3:52:14 PM

Well it worked for KA, theyre doing well, if KA bent over and took it they'd be where ato and phi delt are now. At a certain point you've got to stand up to nationals trying to shove their foot up your ass.

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by: ...Sep 18, 2016 4:59:54 PM

Thought that KA nationals won that fight.

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by: ^Sep 18, 2016 5:04:20 PM

No Texas Omicron won the lawsuit, basically the only local chapter to ever win a suit against nationals. They're back to KA and are going pretty strong, though not quite at the level they were pre 2011

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by: sureSep 19, 2016 12:16:03 PM

Pretty sure UT alumni own the SigEp house.

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by: LolSep 20, 2016 4:45:30 PM

Omicron was taking guys that had been dropped by bottom tier fraternities, they got extremely lucky that KA threw them another charter

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by: cpSep 21, 2016 8:31:45 AM

Is KA's "True Crusade" the same as SigEp's "Balanced Man" ?

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by: leeSep 22, 2016 12:46:12 PM

true crusade is optional

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by: CrusadeSep 23, 2016 11:48:49 AM

"The Crusade is our total membership development program designed to provide our undergraduates with educational opportunities throughout college. Based on the customs of the Order, the program emphasizes gentility, knowledge, leadership, perseverance, reverence, service, and excellence. A member of Kappa Alpha Order begins The Crusade
immediately after he is inducted. He begins with the first phase, Voyage for Brotherhood and moves sequentially through the remaining three phases, Honor Bound, Quest for Leadership and The Journey Beyond, while in college."

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by: notSep 26, 2016 1:40:33 PM

KA is not a "Crusade" chapter.

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#9  by: Not   
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Not converting to Balanced Man, not becoming a dry house, not getting a national staff babysitter.

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by: LolSep 21, 2016 8:04:44 PM

So should we start calling you guys Texas Alpha now? Say bye to your charter

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by: emSep 23, 2016 10:38:47 AM

Not much fight in 'em

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#10  by: fork   
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Seems like SigEp is facing a fork in the road: do every liberal change national is demanding or continue their UT traditions.

By: fork
by: barometerSep 27, 2016 1:13:32 PM

SigEp is the most radically left-leaning of all national fraternities.

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