aaifc & ifc unbiased explanations
by: yw
Hi I’m a junior in a sorority here to give an ~unbiased~ definition of both the AAIFC and the IFC. Here we go...
IFC - this is the council that all of the frats have been apart of for many years (until this year where some frats left the ifc). these frats are affiliated by the university, which is a benefit as the students’s safety is protected by the university, but also a negative as these frats are subject to any university rules (like they can’t have fall rush next year). However, these frats are benefitted by the fact that sororities can ONLY have mixers and tailgates with affailiated frats. Basically, these frats are the overall less riskier option in a way since they are affiliated with um.
AAIFC - brand new. These frats decided to leave the ifc so they would no longer be subject to silly university rules. However, this leads to potentially more problems as these frats will have less rules and restrictions. Also, sororities are NOT allowed to go to mixers / tailgates at these frats (although some girls will go individually to these, but that is technically not allowed)
If it were me, I’d rush ifc frats, BUT I’d also rush AAIFC if it’s possible to do both. I can’t 100% say how well the AAIFC will work out, since it is brand new. But if you want to join a frat, you may as well try out all your options. Either way you’ll have fun and a very typical experience.
#1 by: Truth
Comment#2 by: Well
I think the fact that members of AAIFC have to take to this forum to try to argue that they’re an equal alternative just shows how wrong they are. They have no policies, which means they can haze, party, and do anything else without regulation. If they get caught up in trouble though the university will be no where to help them so good luck with that.
by: ^^BroSep 11, 2018 6:32:09 AM
If the IFC is so great, why is the UM Greek System losing fraternities and so out of control for years? Seems like an ineffective IFC is a tool of UM's secret agenda to weaken fraternities, no?
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by: PoliciesSep 11, 2018 8:59:57 AM
Dude, the AAIFC is still recognized by the NIC, they still have a constitution and bylaws and policies that, while they aren’t identical to the school’s IFC, are very similar and just as effective
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by: RealitySep 11, 2018 10:48:19 AM
The reality is the AAIFC is very likely to end up having far stricter risk management rules than the IFC because the alumni leaders are directly involved and they more highly motivated to protect their chapter houses and safety of students than the IFC which mainly wants to protect their friendships on campus and UM.
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by: NoSep 11, 2018 11:36:51 AM
The alumni have no input in the AAIFC. The only IFC that isn't completely student led is the school's IFC
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by: ^wrongSep 11, 2018 1:02:10 PM
Alumni leaders in Greek Life were heavily involved with students in establishing the AAIFC, but have no direct involvement in IFC.
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by: BeeSep 12, 2018 12:10:36 AM
by: Come onSep 11, 2018 4:45:08 PM
Nobody said it’s a bad thing. That’s not the point, people can still rush the AAIFC second semester. The point is it should be freshmen’s decisions when they rush. If they want to rush first semester they should be able to. It’s not the university's place to tell them when they can and can’t join any organization. Hence why people have their first amendment rights
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by: ^^Why?Sep 11, 2018 5:29:11 PM
Why does UM believe they have the right to discriminate against women (sororities) and minorities (African American fraternities) by not allowing them their Constitution rights to help freshmen gain an immediate support networks through membership in Greek organizations during the fall semester? What about freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Constitution doesn't mean anything to UM?
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by: ^Sep 11, 2018 10:42:16 PM
^ Yikes, work on your pitch because these "reasons" above sound ridiculous. There's no harm in making freshmen wait until January. This just sounds self-serving by you guys because you want money and like taking advantage of a more gullible marketplace (in more ways than one).
I've always thought rush so quickly into the year an awful idea and welcome the new winter rush policy.
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by: ^freedom?Sep 12, 2018 8:15:15 AM
So let's get this straight. UM believes the freedom of association and speech guaranteed in the Constitution doesn't apply to freshman who are adults under the law. O.k., got it.
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#4 by: confused
Kids--
The Social Environment Policy posted on the aaifc website is not a policy created by aaifc.
Does the aaifc endorse and commit to the same policy established by the document creator and owner (UofM IFC)?
April 2015
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SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT MANAGEMENT POLICY
of the Panhellenic Association and the Interfraternity Council
at the University of Michigan
This policy expects members to abide by all federal, state, county, and local regulations
governing the use, distribution, and consumption of alcohol. It shall become effective for and
enforced by all members and chapters of the Panhellenic Association and Interfraternity Council
at the University of Michigan as of April 15, 2015 (original passage January 1, 1992).
by: What?Sep 11, 2018 11:37:49 PM
No it’s not? Again this is something you can fact check by going to their webpage. They posted something similar to the university’s SEMP earlier today because as they’ve been saying all along, they aren’t trying to get around rules
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by: What?Sep 11, 2018 11:44:34 PM
Also, since it’s so similar does that not prove that both IFC’s care equally for the safety of students? I don’t see the evidence behind that argument
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by: hey confusedSep 12, 2018 1:29:54 PM
Dude, what part of this don't you understand? If you are an IFC frat and get caught breaking rules which rarely happens, just merger with another IFC frat and it's all good. IFC rules are a joke cause everybody knows how to beat them.
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#6 by: confused
looks like a sloppy cut and paste job, kids.
aaifc rush timing is guided by the ifc vp or by aaifc??
show us the names of the elected aaifc officers if you want us to understand who you are and how you really function.
this is from the aaifc website as of 805 am, Sept 12--are you taking direction from the ifc?:
"All Events, including Restricted Events, may only occur during fall and winter semesters
as stated below.
1. Fall – the first event may occur on a date set by the Social Responsibility Committee (SRC). All chapters must have attended the Fall Social Meeting before any Restricted Events may be held, or in the case that the chapter cannot attend, a sufficient alternative to the Fall Social Meeting, (as determined by the IFC Vice President of Social Responsibility). Events may not occur during the
dry period for rush, Fall Break, Thanksgiving weekend.
2. Winter – The first event may occur the Thursday after classes begin. All chapters must have attended the Winter Social Meeting before any events may be held, orin the case that the chapter cannot attend, a sufficient alternative to the Winter Social Meeting, (as determined by the IFC Vice President of Social Responsibility). The last event may occur the Saturday before classes end.
Events may not occur during either weekend of Spring Break.
3. Restricted Events may not occur during Spring and Summer Terms
i. Reports of Restricted Events occurring throughout the summer (through Orientation, AAPD etc) will be reported to GARP for action to be taken in the Fall."\n\n\n\n\n
by: IFCSep 12, 2018 8:01:55 AM
The university doesn’t own the name “IFC” the NIC does. Just like most Interfraternity councils s Around the country, the abbreviation for the AAIFC in all of us policies is IFC. Also, stop addressing everyone on this site as “kids” you are a student to, and if you aren’t and you actually are older than everybody else, you need to get a life and get off this site
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by: ^yeah, rightSep 10, 2018 10:04:13 PM
So is that what you'll say in fall of 2019 when the AAIFC holds regular rush for freshman and IFC can't because they are controlled by UM? Tell me how the IFC is going to stop dirty rushing and uphold rules next fall when they can't do it now?
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