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sorority recruitment is stupid

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I really wanted to be a part of Greek life but I didn’t get back the houses that I wanted. The process is terrible and needs to be fixed. I had great conversations at the houses that dropped me and terrible conversations at the houses that called me back so “trusting the process” definitely didn’t work.

Posted By: Annoyed
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are you sure your "terrible conversations" weren't because you already had it in your head that you didn't want those sororities and you already wrote them off??? That's usually the case.

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Sometimes it is really hard to look at yourself and see how others see you. If you are looking for a sisterhood and close friends, don't you want to be with people who WANT YOU and think you will fit in with their group?

The system isn't the problem, it is how you perceive yourself and what your priorities are. Really sorry you've chosen not to participate. Every house has great things to offer.

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Recruitment can be a hard dose of reality for some people.

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Honey you’re not that special.

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Honey you’re not either

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Every year a few PNMs come here after not being happy with who has invited them back saying this exact same thing. I think the fact that most girls who don’t suicide end up with bids extended to them speaks to the fact the system does work. So sorry don’t tell me a recruitment system used by every college campus doesn’t work.

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Just because most people get a bid doesn’t mean they end up where they belong.

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Girl just drop it. You didn’t get what you wanted. No one is saying it was a tier thing. You keep saying it and pretending you’re not the same butthurt OP. Go join student government or something.

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by: Lana   

Ok but are you in a sorority? The sorority sisters pick their members. They decided who belongs in their chapter. They decided you didn’t belong or someone else belonged more than you. It’s not some big conspiracy against you.

I suggest if you still have chapters inviting you back, gonto pref round with an opening mind, rank honestly, and get your bid. If you’re invited to a pref round and you don’t suicide AKA maximize your options you’re supposed to get a bid.

But if you’re gonna be stubborn and convinced you’ve been personally wronged and you won’t let yourself accept an invitation to join any other sorority no matter what, just save us all some times and drop out now.

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Not sure why everyone is so bitter. Yes I didn’t get what I wanted, no I’m not happy about it but it’s whatever. I haven’t bashed any sororities so stop making it seem like I did. I think Greek life is great and I’m sorry it didn’t work out for me. I personally think the system for recruitment isn’t effective because speaking to someone for 20 minutes can’t possibly determine compatibility. I know I’m not the only one who feels like this so stop shutting girls down for sharing their opinion.
P.S. I know every sorority has something to offer, unfortunately the ones I got back didn’t feel like a place I could call home. I gave them a fair chance each time but you can’t force a connection.

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Maybe you weren't but I've heard a ton of chatter about PNMs being downright rude to people in Sororities before they even started conversing.

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Frat rush >> sorority rush

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This happens every year. Unfortunately as much as people might say they don't,they go into recruitment not willing to accept a bid from every Sorority. They may have heard certain things about a specific Sorority or some frat guy told them something and now those houses are disregarded. If you didn't get asked back by certain Sororities, there were other people they may have liked more. People say recruitment isn't competitive at UMD but it definitely can be.

Just like you thought you felt comfortable in a house that didn't invite you back, the ones that did invite you back know their Sisters and could have thought someone you hadn't talked to you would have really gotten along with.

The Sororities that were open to giving you a chance are wondering why you weren't willing to give them one.

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read an expose written by a former umich recruitment chair describing the process used to pick members and it was interesting to say the least

By: well
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That was alpha phi and it’s condoned by their national organization and it’s disgusting. I can tell you any other sorority in the NPC does not handle the process that way. We operate off of a values based recruitment, they only care if you’re pretty #welcometo2019
Are bump groups a thing? Totally how do you expect us to stay organized! But selecting new members based on certain looks and what girls get to talk to PNMs based on their appearance is tragic.

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A lot of people are taking the original message way out of context. No one is bashing Greek life but instead the process used to pick members in certain houses. I went through recruitment and loved talking to all the girls which made me so excited to be a part of such an amazing community. However, as I got my schedule back I continued to be dropped by houses that I felt a genuine connection to and was only invited back to houses that I didn’t feel comfortable in. Nothing was wrong with those houses, I just didn’t have much in common with the girls. Yes each chapter knows their house but I also know who I am as a person. I am a sophomore now so I felt really confident going into this and didn’t expect not to end up in a house. I really loved the process of meeting new people but I’m left feeling helpless at the fact that I wasn’t able to find my home and might not ever be able to. I have a 3.5, am well-rounded, and consider myself pretty (not to sound superficial but let’s be real, this matters to some houses). I put myself out there with an open mind and open heart and am left wondering what went wrong. I had a conversation with a girl that said I gave her chills and was cut the next round which shows the process is flawed in some aspects. In my opinion it needs to be less of a “numbers” game and more focused on the PNMs. The system has been the same for years and has worked for many people but I think it’s important to consider those it didn’t work for and make the effort to fix it in order to make sure as many people as possible have a good experience. Although, I wasn’t successful I am happy I went through the experience because it has helped me in more ways than one; I just wish it would have worked out for me and other girls who were open to the process. I am still optimistic and would like to be a part of Greek life but I feel as though I am left with no options since I am a sophomore. If there is any advice you could give it would be greatly appreciated.

I hope I didn’t offend anyone and if I did it wasn’t my intention. I’m happy for the girls that felt the process worked and in no way am I trying to invalidate their experience. My intentions were to give insight into my experience in hopes others can relate.

Side note: Bashing the girls who didn’t have a good experience and are sharing their opinion isn’t going to solve anything. If anything it reflects badly on the community by saying that someone isn’t “good enough” for a house. Stop spreading negativity and instead give those who need guidance some advice.

By: Confused
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A few sororities in all tiers will not make "quota", for whatever reason and may open their doors to talk to girls interested in their house. The system definitely has flaws and some really great girls give up on Greek life each year due to "falling through the cracks" in the system.
I'm sure there is a great place for you! Maybe you will end up being the prettiest, smartest, most fun person in the whole house. That doesn't mean you don't belong or can't find a wonderful home there.

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by: Confused   

I really appreciate you reaching out l. How do I find out about the houses that didn’t meet quota?

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Keep an eye out on social media. Some will post open recruitment events. Also contact panhellenic, they should be able to provide a list of events/dates. Formal recruitment is very stressful for everyone. You may not have clicked with people in certain houses during formal, but open recruitment is way more relaxed so you and the members may click this go around.

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As the other person said, some chapters didn’t meet quota and will participate in continuous open recruiting (COR). Look at organizations’ social medias and reach out to the department of fraternity and sorority life about chapters who wil be participating if you’re truley interested. If this doesn’t work out, you could also participate in informal recruitment in the fall.

I do recommend though going in with an open mind. While you might not feel an immediate connection with a sorority, it very well could grow with time as you get to know more sisters. I know for me I didn’t feel that “connection” with my chapter when I went through recruitment and was very hesitant about accepting my bid, but as I went through my new member period I came to see that it really was the house for me and now I can’t picture myself being anywhere else.

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