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Do we not remember the whole Adshade incident?

by: Adshade

Recently I've seen A LOT of people spreading rumors and claims of SA and racism taking place in the greek system. Now I'm not trying to discount these claims as many of them are very likely to be true, but I see many people taking these claims and trying to slander the fraternities in saying that they don't care at all and have done nothing to address it without even confirming if they were aware of the allegations or not. We should not forget how many people on campus have a very biased view on the greek system, as was evident with the whole Adshade incident which ended up not being true. Fraternities for the most part want to make the greek system safer and address the risks of SA taking place in the community. One issue that makes this difficult is the fact that the vast majority of members are only aged between 18-23, and thus will not have all the solutions to properly address an issue that not only plagues the greek system but the entire University campus. Furthermore, sometimes these allegations of SA are not directly communicated to the fraternities themselves which does make addressing these claims much more difficult. I really do not think it is helpful to constantly claim that fraternities do not care when a lot of guys are trying to put the effort in making the community safer as a whole. That being said I do think we should be calling out the biases we have in dealing with these issues, it is a fact that when a member that is well liked gets accused of SA the tendency of the members is to defend and back up their own brothers. This is constantly something that is mentioned in many of the allegations of SA, IMO if we really want to address these issues I really don't think we can do that when the common rhetoric being mentioned is that fraternities do not care at all about dealing with these issues. It seams like people right now are more concerned with spreading rumors and trying to defame the fraternities than actually starting the dialogue we need to address these issues that not only affect our community but our entire campus. If you keep telling guys that despite whatever efforts they do they do not really care about SA eventually that may become true, but if we instead focus on calling out the biases we have and the areas where fraternities are at fault then I think we can be A LOT more productive in dealing with these issues properly.

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#1  by: Hm   
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I agree generally, and I hate that things being so public takes away from the good members and aspects of frats. Personally and for many of my friends who were SA victims at the frats, they told us nothing about how they would handle it, and we watched them keep the brothers in the house and actively in the frat. While the public medium sucks, if it is the only thing that will cause the frats to finally take responsibility, then desperate times call for desperate measures.

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#2  by: :)   
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What tangible, effective efforts have all the frats taken? Yes "not all" frat members ignore SA but that doesn't mean there has been productive change. I understand wanting a "dialogue" but whenever we have one it feels like the frats make empty promises and fail time after time to follow through. What avenues do sorority women have to report to ALL the frats? Some frats having tangible policies isn't good enough, bc women still experience SA in frats were there are no policies or the policies are kept secret from sorority women (who make up the majority of victims lmao). Also please don't bring up Adshade as a deterrent. When I was SA last summer part of why I didnt come forward is because I was worried she would use my story, and others like it to feed her narrative, and I would be blamed for "ruining the Greek system". I know there are so many fraternity men who genuinely care about survivors, but unfortunately their organizations are not following through at a level that is helpful. You want a dialogue? Talk to your female friends, listen to their experiences, but pressure on your exec to have proper responses in place and hold your brothers accountable even if it's unpopular. As a victim, I know so many women who have called for dialogue for years but many fraternities have consistently failed to take action. This would not be happening if we had been listened to the past 100 times this has happened. Dialogue is useless without results.

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#3  by: omg   
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"slander" if i call every allegation slander than that means its wrong!!! at a certain point we need to wonder if some allegations are just women expressing their pain at having their community ignore them and seeing the perpetrator face no consequences. There are some great men who care, but for every fraternity member who does, there are so many girls who had their allegations ignored

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#4  by: 1   
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At the ene of the day frats need to face actual consequences for harbouring, its insane how FIJI hasn't been suspended yet

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by: WellJul 28, 2020 10:05:58 PM

The accused has not been convicted yet.

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by: OJul 28, 2020 11:27:35 PM

Op did you even read the ifc announcement?

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