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How did Panhellenic fail so badly this year? Sooo many girls dropped and numbers are low.

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This isn’t just a U of I concern. College admission numbers are down nationwide. All the negative publicity regarding Greek life hasn’t helped.
And, honestly, social media (like this site) skew perceptions of what house is “good or bad” and girls go in with crazy ideas of who is “acceptable or top-tier” and when they don’t get those back, they drop.
It’s sad and, sadly, we’ve done it to ourselves...

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by: Kind of    

Illinois had particular challenges this year though. There were only 900-ish girls that pledged. That’s down from 1300 2 years ago. When they did call backs they had to apply the ratios to a lot lower percentage of girls. But you’re right when these Girls who would normally have gotten a lot of their top choices got their sheets back and only got their bottom choices they dropped. That caused the numbers to crash more. So you are going from a quota of 60 a few years ago to 40 this year. That makes it a lot harder to get into a house if you are a middle tier pnm ( no legacy, activities, grades whatever). And before anyone starts blaming the pledges for being too picky that is not at all what is going on here. The people that are on here calling the pledges too picky are the people who got their top choice house or close to it. I’m talking these girls were getting their bottom choices. Choices they ranked last. And I don’t care if that choice was a top house or a bottom house. It was still last on their list. To blame them for not taking that is ridiculous. I’m not even sure PHC could’ve done anything about this. Their job is to equally allocate the pledges so that houses don’t get left with nothing and top houses get everyone. It was a perfect storm of Bad things. But Greek life can’t survive with 40 girls in a house. The costs are too high. So something has to change.

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by: Wake up   

A big part of the problem is the constant ranking of houses. Who is top, who is not. The Greek system is supposed to present unity...not argue over whose house is better. Whether it be frats or sororitys. ALL houses should socialize with ALL houses. That is what keeps a Greek system strong. If Panhellenic and the IFC would implement this all houses would benefit. The numbers tell the story. Membership is way down. Take a step back and evaluate...things are not working the way they are.

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by: Yep   

Amen!

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by: Well said   

Post before this is spot on. Changes need to
Happen

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So who’s doing COB this year? Seems like all sororities should!

By: Curious
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There are all kinds of greek systems around the country...honestly the problem at UIUC is that there are too many houses. Smaller PCs have better retention and the women are closer. A lot of my friends go to schools with smaller greek lives (20-40 per pledge class) and are having great experiences. Here it's just toxic and over competitive...if number go down, the good houses will last through it; numbers have gone up and down before

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While numbers can fluctuate up and down and have before these houses cannot survive with pledge size average of 40 (quota). These houses were built to hold 60ish girls and you don’t need that every year 40 will make costs for current members skyrocket and then they will drop and the cycle gets worse. National can cover some dips but they won’t cover it all and every year. Property taxes are going up and won’t be adjusted because you didn’t fill your house. You have to heat the whole house and not just the rooms that are occupied. House staff costs the same whether there are 60 girls or 40. Many many fixes costs that don’t go away and now have to spread over 30% less people. Not sustainable.

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by: Duh   

Why don’t they just increase live in requirements then?

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Hey peeps, things aren’t going great for the Greek system. Can we take a step back and stop with the negativity.

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