smu ato question

Above post is BS, I was an SAE in the early 90's, had roomates who were ATO's and they were in the top tier along with Phi Delt and SAE, no particular order. The Service House now was their house. Suspended in the mid '80's for two years, shut down in '95 for repeated alcohol and hazing violations. Hazing was bad, but it was for all back then. At least they didn't have to wear suits and carry bricks and brooms to class like we did. Nobody walked out and pledged other frats and nobody sued. Alums don't want a return, want to remember it for what it was and not be forced to take guys who now pledge Sig Ep.

As an IFC Council Member in 1983-84, we had about half of the ATO pledge class complain their pledge ship each week required 3-4 days of hardship, i.e. demeaning labor, sleep deprivation, abandonment in the countryside and other severe hazing. One of the worst cases of Fraternity hazing in the history of the Greek system.

Their failing semester grades during pledge ship required academic suspension. They petitioned the university for a waiver due to their hazing. Most were denied and their parents sued the Chapter. Most ATO's blamed the Chicago 9, a group of actives from Chicago who destroyed the fraternity with their evil abusive influence over the fraternity's activities.

ATO tried again in the late 80's early 90's but they recruited the same monstrous stereotypes and were expelled from SMU. Put a stake in it and keep it buried...

I was a member in that house that year and I can tell you it’s all BS. And also I know the bitter ATO that was instrumental in the pulling of the charter and he was a OSU ato not from SMU!

hahaha I though the same thing

carefully that could be you in 15 years...hopefully NOT

The 30-40s year old alumni are the most generous fraternal contributors than any other generational group. We do not want to piss them off. Let them vent and we should learn from them. They are us in 15 years....

The 1980's SMU ATO's were suspended then expelled a decade later. Documented alcohol abuse/poising, sleep deprivation each weekend and up to a full week during initiation, individual pledge countryside abandonment and off-campus demeaning labor for fraternity profit. All are felonies these days in Texas. Learn from the past or we are doomed to repeat it....

Hilariois

The SMU ATO Fraternity remains a sore spot for those affected. We want the truth to be revealed. We have Google alerts for any post on this subject. Lets not cover-up this abusive time so it will never be repeated or glorified in anyway. Many, many (1980's ATO pledges) remain bitter over their treatment by these ATO thugs...

Read the posts above. They are true. ATO was controlled by a monstrous group from Chicago in the early mid 80's. They turned a Texas "good ole boy fraternity" into a den of thugs. Severe hazing was their favorite past-time. They were caught and expelled.

Started again in the late 80's early 90's but they recruited the same monstrous stereotypes and were expelled from SMU. Put a stake in it and keep it buried...