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to the 175+ girls who dropped out of recruitment

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To the 175+ girls who dropped out of recruitment, I was once you too. I went into SMU knowing a few girls from my high school who were in a “top” sorority, and was given verbal bids by them I had nothing to worry about. My freshman year I went through rush, and was devastated to find they had dropped me on Pref. Even though I had houses left on my list, I dropped out of recruitment because I felt like I was too good for the houses I had left.

I rushed again sophomore year again promised by this same “top” sorority that it would all work out. Again, on Pref I was dropped and was devastated. I ended up joining a “lower” tier sorority since I thought I would transfer schools anyway. Deciding I had nothing to loose I pledged, and it was one of the best decisions I made in college.

Every sorority at SMU has mixers, big/little, philanthropy, and sisterhoods full of amazing women. I’ll be real, my only complaint about joining a “lower” tier sorority was not having as many mixers as my upper tier friends. But whenever I wanted to go out and their wasn’t a mixer, a group of all my friends would just go to Barely or Uptown and have a great night. In addition, after sophomore year no girls in ANY sororities really go to mixers since upperclassmen would rather be at bars anyway. At Home Bar Thursdays we’re all mustangs together.

It’s true we need another house on campus, but until every sorority is consistently making quota (45-60 girls depending on the year) a new sorority will not be added to campus. In addition, while there is a formal process for picking a new sorority on campus it will 90% be ADPi as they have been trying to get back on campus for DECADES, as well as Kathy Bates was a member while she attended SMU.

To the girls who dropped out, trust me I understand it sucks! You feel like you did something wrong or for some reason you’re not good enough, but honestly once you’re on the other side you realize it’s not you, but a numbers game. Each sorority can only take so many girls and even if you’re in the top 100 girls they want on their list, it's still crazy hard to get a bid. There is a reason SMU is one of the top ten most competitive sorority rushes in the country. SMU has so many triple in house legacies, people’s sisters or cousins within the house, that unless you have a relative at SMU it’s very hard to get the bid of your choice.

I encourage all girls to truly give every house on this campus a chance. If you want to truly be apart of a sorority with sisterhood, philanthropies, and even parties, EVERY house on this campus will give you it. If all you care about is status, then you are not joining a sorority for the right reasons and is probably why you were dropped in the first place. Every sorority wants girls to like them for who they are, not because of their sororities name. In addition, if anyone at SMU ever thinks they are better than you because of their sorority or talks down to you, all it is doing is expressing their own insecurities and has nothing to do with you.

At the end of the day your letters don’t define you, YOU DEFINE YOUR LETTERS.

Posted By: Senior Woman
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Thank you, this is very well said. This is a good time to point out that there is no such thing as a 'verbal bid'. If girls in a house like you and want you they will be gracious and encouraging but they don't speak for their entire chapter, and a bid comes from the chapter not from what some member verbally says. Girls will say they like you and tell you that they can see you fitting in as a member or that you shouldn't have a problem getting in or they hope to see you tomorrow at whatever round. This is not a bid! No one can promise anyone a bid! Bid promising is illegal in the NPC and if you think somebody actually told you point blank "you're getting a bid" then you need to report them. Otherwise it isn't bid promising.

By: Yes!
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Ladies, if someone gave you an oral bid report them. ASAP. That house already cut you, there is no changing their mind for next year or reason to protect them. Panhellenic is trying very very hard to make this issue stop and houses are all aware of the (pretty extreme) consequences. Not only does verbal bidding hurt you, it hurts our community and erodes trust in the recruitment process.

By: PanhellenicGirl
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this honestly made me feel a lot better thanks so much for posting this!

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We see Panhellenic paid Greek Rank to REMOVE the GDI Terrible Week Post. The points made on that Post were read by over 400 viewers. Lets all hope there will be changes made to the manipulated recruiting process next year.

The major factual points were as follows:

The University in 2015 moved the full tuition refund date to the week before the final results were announced. Any freshman wanting out of the University after receiving her rush results would be subject to a 10% cut to her tuition and housing refund.

Keep in mind most freshmen do not have cars on campus so they would have to get their parents to drive to Dallas in their large SUV on snow / ice filled roads to pack and move her out. We just learned the University requires the student to be out of her dorm by Friday, January 26th at 5pm, a short 5 days after receiving her rush results, to prevent losing 50% of her housing refund. Extending the deadline through the weekend was Not Allowed to give parents time to drive to Dallas. A premeditated captive strategy to keep these 175+ newly GDIs at SMU for the Spring semester. EVIL.

Most of the newly GDIs were encouraged to proceed with COB to find a possible opening. Only sorority 7 & 8 were involved in COB this week. These were the sororities most were Not Interested In. Once realized of the GDI reality, it was Wednesday, far too late to transfer to another university or to ask your parents the short notice to make the dangerous wintery drive to Dallas.

It was pointed out that a vast majority of the top 6 sorority PCs were pre-determined. Only a few true openings were actually available to the non-connected. Fall Sophomore rush is very similar to COB. Only sorority 7 & 8 usually take pledges. Those Sophomores that go through recruitment a second time in the Spring are usually cut early and are given bids from sorority 7 & 8 again. Sorority 7 may cut you as a sophomore.

Pretty depressing. Tonight, my roommate and many of the newly pledged girls are out at sorority parties. The 10 -12 newly GDIs on our floor are studying or watching the Shopping Network. We did nothing to deserve this social isolation. Just obeyed the recruitment rules and trusted the top 6 sororities with their verbal bid encouragement. We are stuck here as social outcasts by design of the University and Panhellenic.

By: GDI SHOCK
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by: Your own failt   

If you won’t give COB a chance since you clearly think you’re “above” it you don’t deserve to be in any sorority and deserve to spend your nights alone.

By: Your own failt
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by: GDI   

Again, we participated in COB and only heard back from sorority 7 & 8. The University and Panhellenic are trying to force non-connected PNMs into their 2 faltering sororities. They are trying to prevent another ADPi, Zeta and Phi Mu shut down.

We the newly 175 GDIs did not take the bait. It is now realized we are in a captive group that could not be forced to meet the University and Panhellenic's Hidden Agenda to fill the ranks of financially challenged sorority 7 & 8. We are out of here at the end of this semester.

By: GDI
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by: Wow   

There’s no crazy agenda Panhellenic just wants to see all there chapters succeed. You obviously didn’t read this post and don’t understand what it really means to be in a sorority. Please transfer universitities and transfer your crazy insecure ego elsewhere.

By: Wow
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by: greek   

You thought you were too good for some great houses with beautiful, smart, accomplished girls with truly wonderful sisterhoods. They are now celebrating with their amazing new members and having parties and socials and sisterhood events without you. You deemed them unworthy. You call them '7 and 8'. So now you consider yourself a social outcast, for which you are blaming the school and all the sororities. We can all see proof here that the system truly does work, thank goodness. No house needs such snobs with your shallow, elitist, self-important attitudes; you are poison and we are so much better off without you.

By: greek
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by: GDI   

^ Please take an English spelling class in summer school.

We obviously understand the time, energy and financial obligation to join and be active in a sorority deserving of our membership. The top 6 SMU sororities were a potential match for most of us. Sororities 7 & 8 did not meet our expectations on many levels. We will not be manipulated or forcibly corralled by the University or Panhellenic into financially challenged sorority 7 & 8.

By: GDI
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by: Umm   

I genuinely don’t understand why those sororities don’t meet your expectations. Every sorority at SMU has strong sisterhoods, philanthropies, and an active social life. Is it really jus mixing with certain frats that you care about?

By: Umm
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by: LOL   

You have invented quite the narrative to fit your agenda. There are NO "financially challenged" houses here and SMU sororities conduct recruitment the same way every other school in the country does under the process and rules set forth by NPC - the National Panhellenic Conference. There is nothing to change in the process. Also, the University doesn't give a rat's ass if you join a sorority or not, how many sororities we have or which ones, or anything about it. A lot of girls at every school don't get a house they think they wanted during recruitment but the vast majority go ahead and at least give the houses that want them a chance. If not they move on like grownups and stay at school and sometimes try again. Please take your attitude and leave SMU. Maybe you will eventually grow up.

By: LOL
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Anyone who decides to transfer schools because they weren't happy with their rush results doesn't deserve to get anything back. So childish, pathetic and ridiculous.

By: <>~~~~~~~~~~
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by: <>~~~~~~~~~~   

@GDI you didn't deserve us. We rejected you for good reason. You lack the character to make a great sister, so now you're a pathetic lonely GDI. What a loser you are. Have fun being a GDI at a community college!

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The posts above reflect the University's policy to change the tuition and housing refund timeline to capture 175+ tuition and housing paying freshman from dropping SMU in the Spring. The loss of these payments would be a substantial financial loss to the University.

The lack of response by Panhellenic while recruitment drops have dramatically increased over the past few years has been noted. Having approximately 1/3 of PMNs drop from this years recruitment is an alarming Panhellenic failure.

By: ^ Learn to read
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You can't blame the pnms for wanting what their friend's have. I mean, we're talking about 18 year olds here. This is sad. I'm so sorry the system failed you. I agree that there shouldn't be forcing girls to go to houses where they are not interested, but would also like to see a solution to help ALL the houses be desirable and not just 6 of them.

By: Objective Observer
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If you are sitting around with 10-12 "newly GDIs" and having a pity party by watching the home shopping network, planning to transfer, it seems like you could be more rodictive by taking those 12-14 people and together becoming pledge sisters in a house that has a bid for you. All of you are fabulous, right? And you have established this bond of studying and tv (sounds similar to sorority life with study sessions and bachelor Mondays to me). All the freshmen are in dorms no matter what house. So now everyone notices the amazing PC at X house and you are with people you fit in with (your PC sisters from the original pity party). If you hatevit after six weeks you don't activate. No harm no foul. And if you are transferring ANYWAY then figure out where X house has a strong chapter. If you have activated, you will already be in the that great house when you arrive. Honestly get over yourself and get a better game plan.

By: Fed Up
by: Happy   

That is a great post. The 10-12 girls complaining should have been smart enough to figure that out.
Gather your friends and go join 7 or 8. Contribute your 'fancy selves' and see what happens.

By: Happy
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by: GDIs   

There are over 175 of us not just 10-12.

SMU recruitment for the top 6 sororities is a closed society.
It is for legacies, large donors, the famous and big family names.
Most of us would receive bids from the sororities we were interested in at almost any other university.
SMU and Panhellenic must be more forthcoming to future PMNs.
Changes must be made to give cut PMNs a quick exit instead of forcing us to stay the entire year at SMU.
Forcing unconnected top tier ladies into bottom tier Chapters is not a successful solution.
Adding 15 pledge members to each top 6 sorority pledge class is a good start.

By: GDIs
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by: Lol   

“Unconnected top tier ladies a chance” I’m sorry you’re just a stuck up brat who doesn’t deserve sorority life. Please transfer your attitude to another school.

By: Lol
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by: ???   

LOL about adding 15 pledge members to certain houses. Clearly you don't care to understand NPC rules or recruitment process and just want the world to change to suit you and your little girl. Obviously not worthy of membership in any sisterhood.

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I was a big deal in my high school, like, I was considered popular and we had, like, 200 people in my graduating class. I helped my mom write some great essays about why I wanted to come to SMU and decided to come here because it was warm and I could have pretty friends and hang out in Dallas. Greek life is my RIGHT. I even got a tattoo of the house I wanted before recruitment to show my commitment and then they CUT ME. I don't need or want any advice. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me! Why should I have to show I care about grades and extracurriculars? Asking alums for recs is for idiots. So is spending time getting to know anyone in the houses or what philanthropy they support. I wasn't going to any of their dumb fall events. I just want to go to Black Diamond and paint a cooler! Oh yeah I mean I only posted a few offensive things and I edited my photos for slight improvements and only slept with a few boyfriends of girls in the house but it's not like anyone knows. The university is SO MEAN. I don't know why I even applied here in the first place. If I got into, I mean, went to another school I could have for sure gotten into a "top" house so I'm leaving. \n\n\n\n\n

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by: Haha   

This!

By: Haha
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by: %   

Some girls WERE worthy of a top or middle sorority, but fell through the cracks. Happens every year here and at other competitive recruitment schools. OP, don't listen to the bullies,from that other greek website. I have seen one sophomore go tbru again and get a top 3 house, but her family got very involved with that chapter here after her dropping recruitment her freshman year due to only having 2 on her cards.

By: %
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by: ^   

LOL A family got very involved with a sorority chapter? That's not a thing. Either she was a legacy or she wasn't.

By: ^
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by: Lower your Nose   

Panhellenic, lower your stuck up nose long enough to read our posts, your and the University's recruitment policies and tactics will be reviewed. Giving your entitled precious 360 legacies a lock on SMU social life each year is " monopolistic ". There must be better options made for those ladies remaining independent to have an equally thriving social experience.

WE, the recent GDIs are gathering to discuss these social enhancements to the University. Greek Life must NOT dictate social life at SMU.

By: Lower your Nose
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by: knowmystuff   

Legacies aren't guaranteed a spot. Ever.

By: knowmystuff
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

By: Bye Bye
#10by:    
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LOL. Yes, the pnm's mom was a member at SMU of 1 of the top 3 and she was cut as a freshman. After that the mom/family got involved/donation/connections to that chapter and pnm got in as a sophomore.so yes she was a legacy.

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by: knowmystuff   

well, that's just a sad story. yuck.

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