the anonymous reform
by: truthit’s very telling that much of the conversation pushing for reform is anonymous. the conversations around abolition are publicly echoed through chapter meetings and social media attached to names and faces. i have not see that kind pride and passions in the arguments for reform. i barely know who is actually pushing reform because when i address people head on and tell them i’m for abolition the conversation almost never flips to argue for the other side. I still see a lot of arguments being made through anonymous forums and submissions so i know that other side exists. Why do you choose to hide behind a veil of privacy? It says a lot about your true motivations that you aren’t willing to speak out in public when you believe in reform.
#1by: Tbh
Because the issue is that no one is willing to have an actual conversation. Even speaking up privately to some of my friends and chapter members I have basically been told they’re unwilling to debate and have been shouted over. There’s plenty of us doing the work to figure out how reform can work before we present a thorough action plan rather than standing on the steps of Brookings yelling about abolition. Abolition isn’t easy per se, but it’s easier to latch onto the idea of it and understand how it works rather than reform and if we don’t come to you with a 100% actionable and plausible response you’re going to say it’s worthless anyways so why bother?
Comment#3by: Umm
People are attacked for having an opinion which is honestly a disgusting practice and everyone taking a part in it should be ashamed. Progress is not about pushing one idea and censoring and threatening dissenting opinions. Another reason there is not a big public push for reform is that reform is a very nuanced issue which deals with a system that is already in place. On the other hand, the abolition Instagram has gotten so much attention because it is a singular, forceful, (and rash) movement with ideas that are very easily understood. Question why things are how they are instead of making dangerous and fallacious assumptions.
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There’s a difference between discussing a single person who is speaking up as representing the entire abolish movement, was one of the few people visibly available on the Zoom call, and has made it a core part of her identity (see: Instagram bio) and discussing in general that people in Greek Life are being harassed and in some cases doxxed by abolitionists. They’ve also been deleting a number of reform posts that do offer the nuanced conversations because it’s not in line with the message they are pushing. I’ve seen plenty of reform people willing to engage in discussion with abolitionists but almost zero abolitionists willing to even consider speaking about what reform would entail. Silencing either side is a pretty f’d up thing to do.
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#4by: this
THIS ^^^^ none of us feel like we can voice our opinions (or anything remotely against abolition) without being canceled by our peers. the abolitionists are ruthless and frankly won’t listen to opinions that go against their own, so why should we say something when we’ll just be attacked?
#5by: Reform and its discontent
The anonymity and vague rhetoric is almost certainly intentional. Marxist never declare their true intentions. But this is not so much about subversion; it's because they DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY INTEND.
Why assume people know what they want? Why believe what they say they want is how they'll behave after getting it? They don't know what they want, only what they dislike and can't tolerate. That is always disparity and marginalization. Someone's wealthier, prettier, smarter; some groups seem more successful, less afflicted, more at ease. It is the way of this world, and cannot be changed. Only tyranny and violence over its visibility can their feelings be appeased.
by: Marx himself
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sorry but aren't reformists attacking/mocking visible abolitionists/people who spoke in the zoom meeting in the in recent posts on here? this is some hypocrisy lol
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