the way it is: sororities
by: srat
there are 15 sororities here. no one thinks about it that hard placing srats in a tier of their own except people trying to move themselves up. this is how everyone sees it, order in tiers how most people would prob see it but could be switched depending on who you know:
top: DDD/KAT/KKG
upper mid: PBP/AP/DG
mid: AXO/DZ/ZTA
lower mid: XO/ADPI/SK
bottom: KD/SSS/GPB
does any of this matter in practicality? no. i know people in top 3 who have best friends in bottom 3. and middle 3 rows all cross rush and are friends with each other. you probably couldn’t really tell the difference if they’re not in letters. but this is how anyone not self-ranking sees it, no matter how desperately you want to say another srat had a bad year or that yours or your friends’ had a good year. and maybe they did but it’s not gonna change people’s perceptions in 24 hours. the only way someone really moves up is if they get good PCs, improve presence on grounds, and improve frat relations consistently AND someone falls, over the course of several years. otherwise as long as we have 15 sororities it’ll be like this
Commentby: bump
by: thx
#2by: meh
so yes for 90% of this but I’ve honestly thought DG was lame and the “try hard” srat for the three years I’ve been here… like when someone says they are in DG i have the same mental reaction as if someone said they were in DZ at this point.
Social interactions and shared date functions have just reinforced this.
This isn’t to say this isnt a good post, but the girls I have met in DG remind me a lot of other girls in the middle and I’ve just thought this for a while. Hard to tell the difference I guess from everyone else?
by: What
DG and aphi get invited to the same frats. The mid tier srats get invited to the same frats. DG is upper mid.
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by: honest
even if the quality of the girls goes down, DG still has strong frat relations and a historical upper mid rep. that’s not going to change and will help them in rush. so unless they lose those frat relations and had consistently weak PCs for several years, no, they won’t lose upper mid rep. tiers are more about reputation than actual quality of girls anyway. plenty of fabulous girls in lower tiers
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by: to each their own
if you define sorority rank as = the male approval in a frat of the girls in the sorority, than sure. That’s your priority.
if you define sorority rank holistically such as closeness of sisterhood, personality, grades, involvement on grounds, attractiveness/ overall impressiveness independent of what men think, I don’t see a difference.
To each their own though.
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by: @to each
i think you’re taking this out of context. this is literally how everyone in greek life sees it. if you ranked based on genuine likeability, this list would be VERY different. but based on general reputation for their tier, this is it
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by: Yesss
by: Dg
by: no
by: Axo
Axo please stop. The self ranking and deleting comments is embarassing. You are middle tier with zeta
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by: what
#4by: Really?
Why tf do fraternities play any part in sorority success? Why would smart, educated women in 2022 allow such a mindset? Is a sorority nothing more than a dating service? Are you proud that your letters determine your hotness to guys? Otherwise, why are you at UVA if you think like that? If anything needs to change it is this.
by: OP
as writer of this post, i agree with you, but the truth is having a sorority with a better reputation relies on having a full social schedule first and the tiers of those frats secondly. if it makes you feel better my sorority is not at the top lol
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by: lmao
idk why someone deleted my comment twice now (kinda telling) but frat relations aren’t just about who they think is hot. it’s also who they want to actually party with/think is fun and won’t be a mess at their parties. frats won’t mix with you if they don’t think you’re a good time. if you assume “frat relations” automatically means hook ups that’s part of the problem
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#5by: ?
I’m not taking it out of context. Let me restate what you have said which is the following:
1) A sorority’s tier is determined by their reputation
2) A sororities reputation is measured by their social calendar and the party lists they are on hosted by fraternities
3)the opinion of men in a frat determine the party list
4) therefore, it’s men’s opinion that controls “tiers”
Nowhere in your statement did you imply sorority women’s opinion independent of reputation (defined by party lists) matters.
This is such a backward way of thinking, and it saddens to me people genuinely believe this. As someone who isn’t in a top srat but has really enjoyed my sorority, I have never thought this way or needed a party list to prove me or my sister’s worth or status.
Let’s just be honest with our selves and admit that the fact that smart women prioritize little frat boys opinions over their own opinions/empowerment and self worth is sad AF.
Not ALL Greek life thinks this. I am one of them. \n\n\n\n\n
by: oh well
i’m not going to write an essay on greekrank dot com explaining this to you. you’re extrapolating arguments that don’t exist and making inferences just because a statement wasn’t made, which is poor critical thinking. i’m glad you’re happy with your sorority and you are confident without worrying about frat boys. as someone in a sorority towards the bottom, so am i. there are many other factors that affect a sorority’s reputation, including how visible (fun and classy) they are on weekends out and on grounds, involvement on grounds, visibility/success of philanthropy. but yes, your frat relations play into it as well—relations which are also affected by those other factors. these are university social clubs, not your Girl Scout troop.
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by: ah yes
“ truth is having a sorority with a better reputation relies on having a full social schedule first and the tiers of those frats secondly”
I just take words as they are said^ But happy you agree there is more to it than what you said above. There is hope!!
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by: Lol
#8by: Yes
by: Nah
I disagree. Aphi has a bad reputation for having an awful sisterhood and i lot of my friends in top tier and upper mid tier sororities were very turned off of Aphi during recruitment because Aphi came across as really fake
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by: Well
Pbp has lost frat relations and reputation more than aphi who has always had that rep
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by: Well
Aphi mainly has frat relations because they work for them by opening their legs
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by: Agree
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