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one of my friends said she called UVA greek office and they said we are opening for phi Mu or AOPi colonization because tri sigma did so well. Anyone confirm?

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Tri Sigma doing well does not mean welcoming another new sorority. Seems like that would only happen if one of our sororities is doing bad beyond repair and needs to leave and make room for a new one

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maybe ISC is seeing how many girls go through rush and end up dropping so they want to add another option? if they see tri sig and think that addition was a success then maybe they think another could be successful too

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by: Doubtful   

That's not how it works. New houses are brought on when PNM's are accepting bids to the point where all the new members classes grow in size year after year and it becomes necessary to offer another option. When all houses are thriving and growing it means the demand is huge and time to bring on another sorority. The demand comes first, not the other way around. When girls are dropping, or a certain chapter is struggling, adding another chapter weakens the whole system. Also, it is not panhellenic's decision to make any chapter leave; that is only for the sorority's national to decide. As far as Phi Mu or AOPi, panhellenic can't just decide to bring on a certain sorority. All national sororities are invited to express interest, and the ones that do must all be considered. They would all state their case for being the one to come on, and panhellenic would make a short list, a few nationals would be invited to come on campus to make presentations, and then panhellenic would decide which one to come on. When and if the time comes, there would be no guarantee that Phi Mu or AOPi would be in a position to add a chapter here at that time. If they are committed elsewhere with other new colonization efforts, or couldn't support housing here for a new chapter, they might take a pass. They don't come on without intending to be successful, so the timing has to be right for everyone concerned.

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by: @DoubtfulJun   

yeah, that's how it's supposed to work on paper, but everybody knows it is a rigged system. ISC just doesn't have any real authority or leadership.

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by: NPC WOMAN   

The local NPC @ UVA has to agree to open for expansion. This process can take 1-2 years which involves examining the success of the current houses, how many girls are cut within the last 3 years, the selection of NPC's that are interested in coming on campus, scheduled presentation, etc.

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House have to be invited to present to panhellenic then they have to accept and actually come to present. Then pan votes on them. There will be a lot of notice before we get another house. (And the unpanhellenic ranks and tent talk have to stop. We'll see if we get another house.

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Who would be better -- AOPi or Phi Mu?

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by: obvo   

Phi Mu.

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by: reality   

Is there a "dibs" agreement between panhel and either Phi Mu or Alpha Omicron Pi, meaning one of them has the first right to return (or refuse to return) to campus if a new group is required? Some campuses allow a sorority group who is leaving "dibs" rights to be the first group allowed back onto campus when another group is eventually required. A sorority will, in that case, keep its house and lease it to another group until they return. PM left UVA in 2007, and AOII in 1997, so I would think PM has the clearest shot if "dibs" is in play as they more likely still own their house.

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by: ok   

^ But Phi Mu nationals does not own a house.

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by: HC   

Nothing will happen by waiting for ISC to open the market. Instead people should opt out of rush and create the sorority they want.

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by: bc   

^ because ISC leadership doesn't want competition.

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Let's continue to give our new home time to grow. Quota has remained steady for awhile, so there is no need for another group at this time.

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by: lra   

Tell that to the PNMs who did not successfully "match" and join a sorority.

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by: seriously   

More sororities=more PNM's matching

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by: NO   

@seriously: More sororities does NOT equal more pnms matched. If we add one sorority and suddenly only 500 women go thru rush (where 1000 had gone thru the year before) quota would be MUCH smaller meaning FEWER women would be matched.

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by: NO   

@seriously: More sororities does NOT equal more pnms matched. If we add one sorority and suddenly only 500 women go thru rush (where 1000 had gone thru the year before) quota would be MUCH smaller meaning FEWER women would be matched.

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No sorority owes a bid to any pnm. Period. Sorority recruitment is mutual selection with the balance of power as to which woman gets into which home in the hands of the sororities involved.

Just because women here drop from rush due to a Tammy Top House not inviting them back does not mean those same women would stay in recruitment if a Marla Middle Group is added onto campus.

Successful "matching" can and does occur without the pnm getting her first MRABA choice. And our recruitment quota numbers are steady, so no other group is currently needed according to panhel.

The NPC (sorority umbrella group) is currently asking some campuses to change their recruitment parties from allowing pnms a maximum of 3 house pref invites down to 2 homes. This is because their research has indicated very few women join their third choice pref home. It will save some pnms the agony of being made to attend, and then MRABA listing and possibly being bid to, that 3rd group. It also saves sororities the time and expense of hosting a third pref party.

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by: Facts    

Okay the person above is 100% from the ISC....probably not even a student. Idk half the acronyms you're using. Also it's important to note that if we added a new sorority it would start in the bottom. Being new definitely has the perk of not having a reputation (that's benefitted Tri Sig) but a new sorority doesn't go straight to the top or even the middle. PNM's can be content with what we have

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by: elz   

Clearly they don't understand market economics either.

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by: @ @ ira   

so basically even fewer PNMs are matched? wow, sounds great!

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Maybe Tri Sig is just a bad product.

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by: Murica   

So why then does ISC manipulate the market to support them?

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No member group within the NPC is disregarded for any other member group. NPC women support one another and thereby form a strong, diverse and enriching panhellenic community. NPC does not encourage any campus to intentionally omit sororities that may perform at a lower capacity.

The world is full of people with differing interests, goals and responsibilities. It is fair to guess UVA keeps Tri Sigma on campus to fulfill the wants and needs of a particular number of UVA women desiring sorority membership.

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by: you're not from UVA   

^ Word salad.

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We need the truth. We deserve the truth!

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