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I'm sorry @meg. You should definitely get some sleep. We all need it. Don't know why Panhellenic isn't doing its job and I know the quota issue is a sore subject. Hope you feel better tomorrow!

@meg if you voted to go under quota you're part of the problem, and no amount of handwringing and concern trolling will change that

@pnm. Just sit down. Please just sit down. You have no idea how this issue is impacting the houses. Terrible situation that you are just too new to understand. @meg was actually kind to you as many others would have said much much worse. Terrible situation. I wish my house had the courage to go under quota to send a message too but we couldn't do it. We should have.

Pnm is right. Houses like megs are part of this problem. You cant complain about chapter sizes and vote to go under quota then fake concern when pnms receive heavy cuts. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Yes i hear your whining about big PCs but it takes several years of large PCs to open for expansion. That way national phc knows the rise in interest is actually there and it wasnt just a weird year. I know you're unhappy with last year but it was a strange one and the increase in pnms was definitely hard on everyone but if the high interest of pnms continues we should be getting more houses. Its kind of a necessary evil to ensure greek life here stays healthy for years to come. Its like getting shots they suck that day but you are healthier in the long run.

I have been thinking exactly this! Panhellenic does its absolute best to deal with massive numbers of PNMs that seem to only be growing every year and to cater to them in a limited number of houses while still guaranteeing bids. From what I understand most schools do not try to cater this way, and given that these are just women who also go to Cal and have other commitments like classes and employment recruitment, trying to do their very best for a bunch of whiny and unappreciative freshmen girls, they should be given a break. If the computers are not working it is not as if they are doing that on purpose and are surely trying to do their very best to fix all the situations that are happening. THey cannot be expected to know that PiPhi might not allow girls to use the bathroom or whatever else, however they will try to find solutions and make recruitment even better the next year. Seems like a really thankless job. And I am not in PHC in any way, I'm an senior who has seen rush get much more difficult to deal with and much more demanding PNMs in the past 3 years. Some of the girls rushing really need to toughen up a little bit and stop blaming everybody else for not getting invited back to the houses they wanted and not having their every want and expectation met. Everybody in the entire recruitment process is doing their very best, including all the women in the houses who came over a week early to school to prepare for 1000s of PNMs to come through their houses.

@making contact, a question for you: Who at Cal has any level of responsibility or accountability for what happens with recruitment? How do you know that much of what is said on here hasn't been said in other official forums? To kick the Cal issues down the road to NPC is just typical of what happens here in terms of responsibility. Perhaps its a West Coast thing? I have no idea. But I do know other schools have larger recruitments and the process runs like clockwork and in a professional manner. Nobody is saying people aren't working hard and giving 1000%. People are killing themselves. But when people work so hard and the same things keep happening and the same issues get brought up over and over via official channels and nothing changes at a certain point you just have to leave it in the past. I am not sure our school has the will or interest to make things different than they are today. This makes me sad but I know that there is nothing that can be done. Institutional inertia is a terrible thing. I do know saying the issues need to be solved elsewhere won't solve anything. There are many people that are upset so the conspiracy about a single person is honestly not true. People that feel this way know each other and have been vocal but are realistic to know nothing will ever change here.

@making contacts. Forgot to mention that Cal is making Cal look bad, not comments here or comments made from various houses to Panhel. These issues are not fabricated. The issues are real so you can do the Berkeley thing and try to shout me down but things reported on here or reported to panhel are real and not fabricated. Maybe some like minded leaders may show up in the future, but I do know they aren't here now.

We have snowflake issues but the ones discussed in this thread aren't snowflake issues. If you want to keep your head in the sand as to everything that is happening then feel free. But don't accuse those of talking about the issues that impact us all in a way that you don't approve of as being whiners. No whining is happening here as all of these issues were discussed in houses and with panhel last year. The fact that many of the issues discussed last year were repeated again this year can lead one to draw many conclusions, most of which are not at all flattering to anything going on in the system.

Here's the problem, @Keeping it real: you have no calculated statistics to back-up your claims that 1) no one wants Cal's bottom houses; 2) women who join bottom houses have no right being in Cal's greek system; 3) a lot of women who get bids do not accept them; 4) there are much smaller pledge classes in Cal's bottom houses.

Your suggestion that Cal's top houses strengthen our greek system by bidding more women is not even feasible unless an increased number of pnms are interested in joining and/or some of Cal's bottom sororities are forcibly expunged. No one can force any sorority to bid women it does not want.

Twenty-six individual NPC sororities exist to give homes to all manner of women who earn membership by meeting divergent sorority membership requirements.

Each sorority has distinct rituals, values, standards, customs and practices. Yet each one works together under a united and purposeful NPC panhellenic creed, which can be read in the unanimous agreements section of the website npcwomen.org