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how do sororities pick?

by: confused

Genuinely confused how sororities pick which people to drop. Conversations were so basic that they were probably the same with almost everyone. How do sororities keep track of so many people and choose which ones they think fit best with their house through such basic conversations?

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#1  by: up   
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Good question. Excellent question even. It's rough to meet over 1,000 people and keep it all together. This is a super hard question to answer other than the recruitment process isn't too different from meeting people in other situations. As a new person any place (school, work, class, club, dorm etc.) you are constantly meeting people. Who do you vibe with and why do you vibe with that person? At a basic level, it's about connection and yes its possible to connect even with the most basic seemingly boring questions. Also, the question might 'seem' boring but know that it takes a special person to take a boring question and RUN with it (there is a big hint in this answer btw). If you are bored by the boring question and can't turn it around to see other possibilities for connections then you have failed to make a connection with the person you are conversing with. Give it a try today. Try to take the boring and make it interesting and even better take the time to learn something about the person you are meeting or better yet to find something you and the person you are meeting share in common. This is actually more difficult than you think. But developing this skill will help you in recruitment and also in other areas of meeting people on campus. Give it a try and report how it goes. Guarantee that no matter what happens you will have a better time because you are engaged and present and NOT passive. Good Luck.

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#2  by: pat   
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@yup is totally right! Keep in mind there is a method to the madness of the process. Need to figure out how to stand out in a positive way. Tricky thing to do. Focus on the person you are talking to.

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#3  by: yep   
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Agree with what's already been said. I also need to point out that the sororities have a better idea what they are looking for and who will fit into their house than you do. It can be pretty obvious within a short interaction whether or not you can see someone in your house because you know your house so well. PNMs, on the other hand, don't know the different houses well and are in the process of trying to figure out what a house is like and deciding whether or not they would want to be a part of it.

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by: megAug 25, 2017 1:13:21 PM

@yep. I hear what you are saying but most houses are fairly diverse so I'm not sure there is a 'cookie cutter' for every house. I know for us that social skills are important, first impression is important and ability to carry on a conversation is important. I know for us we don't want everyone to be the same but people do need to have something in common. I know this sounds like a bad fortune cookie fortune but its true! The process is more art than science for sure. It sounds strange to say this but from a PNMs perspective put yourself out there as someone that the house would want as a sister. I am not talking to be someone you are not but your best 'you'. No fake please as I saw a ton of that already and it gets real old real fast and is totally spotable. Don't do it, PLEASE.

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#4  by: Factors You Can't Control   
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These posts are solid and obviously you should try to be engaging, BUT you need to know there are other factors that simply are not in your control. If you don't get into a house you think you want, don't feel like you did something wrong. There were two times I thought I had great conversations at a house and the next day I didn't get invited back.

What I know now, though, is that some PNMs already know girls in houses. Maybe they were from the same high school or area, maybe they played sports together, or were Regents Scholars, maybe they were in the same dorm together. Those PNMs are going to have an advantage. Legacies and PNMs with recs may also have an advantage -- not a big one, but they might get invited back to an extra day. I've heard some houses drop PNMs in hard majors because they want to keep their GPAs high. There could be a million other reasons you'll never know. Maybe the sister you talked to doesn't have much pull in the house.

What you've already figured out is that these decisions, based on a super fast conversation in a loud room, are pretty superficial. You can do your best, but almost every PNM is going to get cut along the way, probably many times. When it happens, just say "whatever, their loss," look at the houses you've got left and put on a smile. This site likes to make it seem like all the houses are super different, but they're all pretty similar. Don't get your feelings hurt -- it's really not personal -- and keep going!

By: Factors You Can't Control
by: daniAug 25, 2017 6:16:40 PM

This post is absolutely pitch perfect! So well said on a super difficult topic such as rejection. Nobody goes through this process untouched by rejection. You are not alone. Do not blame yourself and keep on going. Last year was an eyeopener for me to watch for the first time as an active. What seemed to happen is that the round 1 and 2 cuts (which are fast and deep by design) seemed to throw people that probably had never experienced much rejection in their lives ever. These people dropped early and never gave themselves the opportunity to find a home and to investigate all the houses. We honestly have 12 great houses here at Cal and we are lucky in that the system is casual. I would never advocate joining a house where you don't feel comfortable but the reality for most people is that finding a close group of friends in any house is possible. Many people that dropped last year are coming through again this fall but they missed out on the first year which for most of us is the most fun! Do what feels comfortable to you but I suggest thinking hard about maximizing your options as you move through the week. Read the stories on the other thread of the many people that kept one house that was one of their top choices all week and were dropped by virtually every other house. These kinds of things happen and you just have to roll with the process as it can be a rollercoaster for sure!

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#5  by: ki   
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To PNMs, my first year on the 'other side' of the door and I have to tell you it is rough rough rough (the cut percentage was much larger than what I ever expected it to be). We truly met so many wonderful people and to have to cut was super hard and there were some tears at our end (sappy but true). I know this is hard to hear but I wish someone had said this to me last year: The number of people going through is huge relative to the spots available, everyone is almost equally qualified, we have to deal with legacy issues and it is so hard to make choices when so many people are equal and we know they could/would make great sisters. The message is that if you get cut know that it absolutely wasn't personal (this is hard to understand when it happens now but believe me when you see the other side next year you will understand what I am trying to say). Keep the bigger picture of joining our system in the front of you mind and focus on finding likeminded people at the houses you visit. We were up super late getting it all done so I'm going to treat myself to a little nap before studying. Be kind to yourself and just keep going. If you maximize your options you will get a bid! Sorry for sounding sappy but I wanted to say something even though I'm exhausted and not thinking 100%.

By: ki
by: ^^^^^Aug 28, 2017 6:05:02 PM

^^^This is what it means when a campus sorority system stays positive with their online recruitment messages and pulls for all the pnms to find their homes. Please ignore the Negative Nellies posting about tears, anger and mistakes during recruitment. Be assured by the above post that you, the pnms, are desirable and wanted by a home somewhere in our system. We all benefit from upholding 115 years of NPC values and standards.

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by: kiAug 28, 2017 6:33:55 PM

I appreciate the props on this message but I do think the 'negative nellies' have some issues with which I totally agree and reading the 'thanks to panhel' I sadly think there is much truth there too. I'm all for keeping it positive but you also have to keep it real and truly this year pushed us all to our last nerve in great part because of administrative issues and miserable communication. Cutting was brutally hard but it was made so much worse by computer systems that didn't function and lists that weren't right so we effectively had to relive the horror twice and at nearly 3 am. Process is largely about little details and checks and balances and I'm not sure who was on top of the details. People worked incredibly hard and over and above the call of duty but when a system doesn't work the work is largely in vain. Its going to take awhile to process all that has happened and evaluate the fallout. Now having watched this process play out for a few years I'm not at all confident anything will change. I was initially quite encouraged by the verbiage of panhel this year but I'm a big believer in watch what people do vs what they say and in general what was said was alot of hot air. Sadly I believe this entire panhel and the advisor/s should resign as the process wasn't respectful to either the PNMs or the houses. Just my view from my little corner of the process. Curious what others think. But to bash the Negative Nellies is to miss the excellent points they raise.

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