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I am a first year and we just had training sessions to prepare us to participate in FFR. If I had known then what I have now learned about the process I don't think I would have gone through initiation. Seriously disillusioned about how and who we recruit. All I can say is that to all the people that dropped from FFR last year after not feeling great about the process is that 'you were correct' and 'you dodged a huge bullet'. Not sure its in me to subject good and decent people to what the house requires as via PNM candidates. This entire process is seriously wrong.

Posted By: nopi
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Are you talking about the six core values are integrity, lifelong commitment, honor and respect, personal and intellectual growth, philanthropic service to others and sincere friendship?

My guess is you are having issues with integrity, honor and respect and sincere friendship! I feel your pain. Why not drop?

By: yeapi
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To yeapi, your 'guess' as to what was troubling me was spot on! After much soul searching I did drop and transferred to Stanford and won't affiliate. The big issue for me was sincere friendship in the house and tied into this issue were the important issues of integrity/honor/respect that seemed to be brought up and used in the house only when convenient. Overall I met a number of good people in the greek system but the fit of the house and the school simply wasn't right for me. I knew something wasn't right with Panhel after I saw how FFR was managed (or not). Panhel seemed inactive for a good portion of the year and communication quite poor. As it relates to the school though I was very disillusioned by the lack of tolerance amongst students and staffs at what was supposedly a 'liberal' institution and the ongoing rioting was something I felt detracted from what I wanted in a college experience. The lack of leadership from the Chancellor and President to manage what I felt was a deteriorating situation on our campus on the issue of free speech and tolerance along with student safety was something that I ultimately could not accept. I realize Stanford won't be better just different but for my major program, I know that academically I will be ok and I think the environment will be something I feel more comfortable with on a day to day basis.

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The old 1-2-3-4 punches got to you, didn't they? Wrong campus for your major, wrong campus administration and staff, wrong panhellenic, and wrong chapter of your sorority.

Glad to know you will be amongst better people on the enclosed, private, more conservative campus at Stanford in Fall.

Unfortunately your sorority chapter at Stanford won't benefit from your wise life perspective, but your taking alum status and searching for interaction with mature women in your group can lead you to a more stable, improved, lifelong sisterhood experience.

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To @nopi, I would like to clarify that I had no issues with my academic experience at Cal and that academics were not the primary driver of my decision to transfer. The program I am now enrolled in is not an option at Cal and I am grateful to have the option to transfer. The decision to transfer was very difficult as I enjoyed my classes, friends and general greek experience. I would also like to clarify that I believe there is a house at Cal for every PNM that stays open to the experience. I would have to say that of my available options at pref that I chose the best available option for me. But as I saw, not all things work out and I think this is part of the process too. Some people are able to stick things out with the hope that it will all work out in the end, but I'm not a big believer in this philosophy so I decided to take a risk and try something completely new. I have no illusions at all about my new school and realize that it will only be different and not necessarily better except in the ways that are important to me. This was a very personal choice which I wanted to share so that PNMs know that not everything works out and that this is ok and that rethinking a choice is nothing if not human. I also would like to clarify that I have no intention of activating as an alum or joining any other type alum organization and I mailed my pin back to headquarters via certified mail as I would like to put this entire chapter in the rear view mirror!

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Can you be more specific??

By: hm
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Do tell what upset u so much

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Why talk in tongues? Wtf? Who are u referring to?

By: Yup
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Just as a reminder not all chapters recruit the same way and require the same things and just because your chapter is that way definitely doesnt mean any or all other chapters are the same way. Genuinely curious what house you're in though and what things they are saying that you dont like. If it does conflict your your own morals though I do encourage you to consider dropping. Also reminder to all the pnm's that this is why you should pick your house based on your values. If you just join one people tell you is cool you might end up in OP's situation.

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You comments are honest and understandable. Thank you for sharing. I promise you there have been women in the past (I initiated 45 years ago, and my daughters between 10-20 years ago) who have felt as you do. Over time your sorority will bring you many joys as well as disappointments. No sorority is perfection personified nor without perceived flaws. Please continue to bring your best to your new recruitment situation. Sorority sisters depend upon continuance of finer feelings to build their congregation and accomplish their good works.

By: true
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The process you refrain from revealing has been in use by private organizations for a very long time. Thank you for respecting your organization's methods thru your wise use of silence. I strongly agree with the other poster that not all groups possess similar standards of membership selection.

By: useful
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I know you should respect the privacy of your sorority's recruitment criterias, but I'm curious as to what it is that made you feel this way. Any hints? Looks? Financial status? Address? Grades? Etc.?

By: curious
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Considering the house she initiated into, I don't expect anything more than the puzzle of sentences she's already posted. Suffice to say when you become an initiated sorority woman you too will learn of the vast network of association involved in making any sorority competitive and successful.

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If anyone is wondering what Yeapi is referring to about last years FFR, go back and read the posts from Fall 2016, especially What House Did You Choose/Pref and Why which has hundreds of comments about different women's recruitment experiences. If you want to belong to a house where all the members look the same or come from the same wealthy areas or play the same sports, then you can imagine that the members are told to recruit people similar to themselves. If you want to belong to a house that values you for your individual qualities, then look for a house with all types of women. Whatever you do, be true to yourself and your values.

By: Eyes Wide Open
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Sorry, meant what Nopi was referring to

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I agree that the mentioned thread makes helpful reading. If the reader just takes away the idea that the first round cuts are hard and deep for the most popular houses then recruitment will be much less stressful all around I think. I keep thinking how things might have been different across our system if so many people with so much to offer didn't run for the hills when they were brutalized in the first two rounds? This past year I met so many wonderful and interesting people who said they dropped and all I could think about is what a HUGE loss for us all. The the PNMs going through recruitment this year please please please think long and hard about an early departure from the process. We have fantastic houses across our system and there is a house for everyone that wants to join one. It is so hard to see the forest from the trees amidst the chaos that is built into the recruitment process. Look at the bigger picture and think of the good friends you will meet and experiences you will have INSIDE the greek system rather than from the OUTSIDE.

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