now that aoii is no more....let's move on!

AOPI nationals, go back to your West Virginia Gypsy bedazzled house and your monster truck husbands who get rich off the "property management" program. Leave us alone.

@not even...Truly not sure what you are talking about. I have no issues with the Sigma ladies (they were the victims in this sad sorry story) and wish them well on the path that they are on. The fact that we have lost a panhel member who has been at Cal virtually since the beginning is something that is absolutely tragic and I in no way meant to discount that accomplishment AT ALL. I think it is beyond pathetic that the national cut the chapter loose given the history and didn't try to find a way to salvage the situation. But all of that business is in the past.

Honestly, I'm not sure what path the Sigma sisters are on now to tell you the truth as they aren't affiliated with our panhel but I wish them the best in their endeavors. My only issue is that the AOII portion of the Sigma story is done and dusted and I think our panhel needs to do something to offer another NPC option over the next couple of years. Given that it takes a couple of years to get moving, it's important to start sooner rather than later. My concern is that nothing seems to be happening. I have no issues with Sigma at all and I totally agree they were held in high esteem by their peers. My issue is however how we accommodate our system to the loss of AOII and MOVE FORWARD. Hope this clarifies things and so sorry if I upset you as that was not my intent. I wish that the Sigma sisters could somehow find a way to affiliate with another NPC member and come back to panhel!

Not sure how any of this commentary is 'un-panhellenic' as my concern is only with the long term health of our cal panhel. Absolutely no disrespect to the sisters of AOII AT ALL as I clearly stated I wished them the best! I am also not sure how you or anyone else can defend the behavior and tactics of the national AOII as if anyone was disrespectful to the 100+ year legacy of Cal AOII it was them. I do take issue with your comment about taking comments only to panhel as I always believe broader discussion is valuable when considering future planning. I am not sure whether you are trying to stifle discussion or somehow feel threatened by anyone suggesting that all is not well with our system? I am confused as to where you are coming from in all this which is nothing more than casual chatter.

PS. Forgot to mention to take a breath and RELAX

Should AOPi be invited to come back to campus through recolonization?

@future. Very difficult question you are asking. It's something that probably should be debated and voted on by all members of all greek organizations and only after thoughtful discussion. I am not a member of AOII but am a member of a panhel organization. I have to say that watching what happened to the sisters of AOII was something that I don't think any member of ANY panhel organization should have to go through. As an outsider there was something about the entire way the local was threatened and treated that seemed highly unprofessional, deeply disrespectful of the history of the local chapter and disrespectful to Cal. I can't say I've ever read about the history of AOII and its rituals but I don't believe the national seemed to treat the local in a way consistent with its values. I'd be curious to see the pro and con arguments for readmission of AOII and I would try to listen with an open mind. But I have to say that I've seen other nationals (3D, KKG and Theta) in action on very very difficult issues with locals and I can say that I never once doubted the professionalism, integrity and motives from any of those organizations in the way that I have severe doubts about the integrity and professionalism of the AOII national group. I don't see why we would want to admit back an NPC organization that showed us who they were in terms of how they behaved and was found wanting on many fronts. Based on the behavior/legal history I think we can do better with another NPC.

I'm interested in joining a sorority next year and a girl went to my high school is in AOII. There are a lot of bad things written up here about them. Are they a good sorority? What are they like?

I agree with the person that said the AOPi national should be banned from Cal with zero chance of ever returning. I don't know why this hasn't happened yet or why a discussion hasn't even been scheduled. The treatment of the local sisters and by extension our panhel by the national has been atrocious and I can't believe more people aren't speaking up. I also am baffled why no prelim discussion of bringing another NPC on board soon. We still have sizable disparity in achieving quota which honestly isn't great for our system so I guess that issue should be brought forward too. Guess we have a lot to talk about....

I'm with nope. All the leaders of panhel should be recalled and we should vote on new ones. Panhel is in shambles. Pathetic excuse for a governing body.

To the person preaching 'discretion' please give some thought to why people are posting anonmously on a crappy website like this one about panhel issues. People in our system feel they have zero voice and that the overwhelming majority of people in leadership positions want to maintain an out of date and 100+ year old status quo. Not only do we have no voice but there are no leaders and we are saddled with an administration that provides zero guidance and support (witness the AOPi situation). I think discussion here would stop if panhel stepped up. Give it some thought.