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I am trying to figure out why the KKG fall pledge class is so small vs other houses? Was this intentional or not?

Posted By: susieq
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I think they just screwed up. Whole thing makes no sense. We went from rumors of dirty rushing one minute to a small class the next minute. Not sure who to believe as the rumors are flying.

By: mac2018
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I wonder if this is the beginning of the end of this house? Rush seemed like a total disaster as many PNMs gave this house the thumbs down!

By: marcd
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Kappa doesn't have a small pledge class number for any other reason than the fact that they took the number that is given to them by PHC. It has nothing to do with what PNMs thought of their rush or their house as a whole.

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by: marcd   

Don't think this is the correct answer "wrong"! Do some research and get back to us please.

By: marcd
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Many PNMs down voted Kappa during recruitment and preferred other houses this year. Perhaps PHC "gave" Kappa fewer pledges as those were the only PNMs that wanted Kappa - other houses were more requested by PNMs and so those houses got more pledges? More people wanted houses other than Kappa this year and so those more requested houses got more pledges. It is odd to see the disparity in the pledge class sizes in 2016. Must be a better explanation than those are the numbers given to Kappa by PHC. Put your thinking caps on ladies and find out the 'truth' as none of these explanations make much sense.

By: amyde
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Or maybe kappa cut a bunch of girls because they didn't want to deal with a pledge class of 50+. some of the pledge classes are massive, yes. But with that many new members it will be hard to integrate them all. Many houses will have poor retention this semester I imagine.

By: Amy
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Interesting theory Amy, but honestly not convinced. The buzz amongst the PNMs was all about down voting Kappa in favor of other houses. So whether they wanted a small class or got a small class because nobody wanted them this year is still a mystery as far as I'm concerned. But I hear you on the issue of large classes being a challenge. But it was great to see so many people go through the process this year and end up being happy with their results. I think this will be good for the overall system. It also seemed to me that Kappa didn't do its part as a 'good citizen' by having a larger class to take up some of the slack from having one fewer house this year. I didn't think this was cool or respectful of the panhel system AT ALL!

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by: maddyk   

You gals are so FUNNY! We all know that Kappa doesn't give a Krappa about PanHel! They did what they always do which is think about themselves. Wake up and smell the Krappa!

By: maddyk
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I read through the thread and I actually agree with danieller above. Kappa didn't do its part this fall and the other houses stepped it up and took bigger classes as a result. Thinking about this situation I am not at all sure it is fair or right as it puts a lot of pressure on the houses with larger classes. I really think PanHel should publicly address this situation so there are no secrets and we all understand what happened. Right now I don't feel we were on a level field this fall. While I am super happy we got so many great pledges, I don't think Kappa did its part or made any attempt to be a responsible part of the Panhel community. I'm actually kinda mad about the whole thing..

By: cathmar
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Hi so I actually used to be on PanHel and all the houses are told how many girls they are supposed to take. This is not specific to Kappa or any other houses. I'm pretty sure that Kappa does have over 50 girls in their pledge class, and that they have historically had smaller pledge classes than the other houses.

By: expanhel
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To 'expanhel' does it make sense to you that Kappa (or any house for that matter) has a smaller pledge class than other houses? This is a year where nearly 1,000 PNMs were looking to join a house and where nearly 200 PNMs dropped out to the process? I am not sure these numbers reflect positively on our system at all but this is something that we need to discuss and debate. This was also a year where we sadly saw the loss of a house that is/was a valuable member of our community. It just seems odd to me that virtually all the houses stepped up this year to take on the challenge of larger pledge classes while Kappa either refused or didn't have to take on more pledges. I agree with the above comments that this situation is indeed odd and presently inexplicable. Does anyone have a concrete answer to the question being asked? I agree with the person that wrote that they are annoyed about the entire situation. It doesnt seem like Panhel did the right thing by all the PNMs that went through recruitment this year.

By: betsmag
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It doesn't work like this. Panhellenic gives you a number to release every day, and you have to follow it. A chapter cannot "voluntarily" take a smaller pledge class. They have to list every woman they invited to pref, Panhellenic matches up the numbers as best they can.

We have ZERO control, top house or bottom, on the number of women we have to release or the size of the pledge class. We hand our lists in to Panhel ranked #1 on down of every woman who was at pref, and Panhel gives us a pledge class based on that list and the PNM preferences.

Women always drop. That is nothing new. Many of those came in wanting 2-3 houses only, and when they got released by those houses, they drop. They weren't looking for a real fit or sisterhood. Don't feel too sorry for them.

By: Hmm
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Sororities must take quota if they can. If they are still below total, then they can take more. If a house doesn't make quota it is because not enough of the girls on their bid list put them first. A PNM is going to get her first choice house on pref night unless she is so far down their list and there is no "room" for her because they are at or above total with girls already selected on the bid list. Houses can't tell panhell that they want to take less people. Low rate of return+being the second choice on pref=small pledge class.

By: duh
by: betsmag   

Duh, thanks for shedding some light on what might have happened this year. But there must be a way to better fill classes more evenly so that more PNMs stay in the system and don't drop out - the Kappa pledge situation to me still seems to be a mystery given that even if it wasn't a first choice for many it certainly could have been #2 or #3. Something happened this year with the process that resulted in sizable class size disparity and I'm not so sure its in the best interests of our system. Trying to figure out what can be changed to improve the situation as I think we lost a lot of good people this year and thats a loss to the entire system I think. Maybe we need a couple of new colonies?

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